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Good to hear how many people have never seen this sort of damage with a TSX, so know it can't happen. I've put hundreds of thousands of rounds through various Remington 700's and never had a bolt handle come off, but I know it can happen.
I've seen extensive TSX meat damage now and then. One other time was also when my wife shot a mule deer buck with the same .257 Roberts and load--except this was back before the Tipped TSX appeared, so the bullet was the hollow-point version of the 100-grain.
The buck was standing broadside in tall sagebrush 50 yards away, so only the top half of the body was visible. The bullet landed at the bottom edge of the shoulder blade, behind the joint, and went through the top of both lungs. We lost most of that shoulder--despite the bullet only going through the shoulder blade and not the joint.
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I think I am going back with the 130gr SP Hornady Interlocks, never had a failure with any caliber, and half the cost. I'm using 117 BTSP in 25-06, and working on 180gr 300 win mag. Can't go wrong with the Hornady line for deer sized game in my opinion.
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Coincidentally, I shot a mule deer buck a day after my wife did--and with a 130-grain Hornady SP Interlock from a .270 Winchester. Less meat was damaged with the Hornady, but my buck was at least twice as far away, and muzzle velocity was around 100 fps slower.
I've also had excellent luck on deer with Interlock Spire Points, using bullets from the 100-grain .25 to the 200-grain .338.
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I think I am going back with the 130gr SP Hornady Interlocks, never had a failure with any caliber, and half the cost. I'm using 117 BTSP in 25-06, and working on 180gr 300 win mag. Can't go wrong with the Hornady line for deer sized game in my opinion. I shot 3 deer over the weekend with 139 grn Interlocks from a 7mm-08. Every bullet fragmented into very small fragments and left me chasing them through the meat and even throwing away a bit because it likely contained fragments. I dug out several very small fragments. I didn't find anything larger than 1/10 of those bullets. All shots were from 20 - 80 yards though.
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Sometimes things happen like that... I have seen the humble ol' 30-30 blood-shoot up most of the "backstrap" from a high hit to the spine.
The shot was angled a little toward the rear of the deer, entry was top of shoulder and exited mid back, but most of the meat was toast clean to the rump. A single factory 150 gr core-lokt was the culprit, Average size whitetail range 50'ish yards... Wound looked similar to the one in your deer Hammer2506, just a different path in the deer.
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Damage not as drastic as that in the op's pics but, was surprised at the amount of bloodshot meat on a deer a few geeks ago....slightly quartering away at approx. 60 yds., 130 gr. Partition out of a 270 entered just behind the left shoulder and messed up the opposite shoulder even though it did not exit directly through it....hydrostatic shock at 3100+fps will sometimes mess things up.
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I am sure this was a TTSX 130gr load, thats the only thing I shoot through 270. Besides ballistic tips are yellow in the 270. This was about the worst I've seen with a TTSX ever. Nothing even close with 7mm 140gr's. But clipping the back edge of the shoulder blade caused the bullet to come apart I would assume. Did you catch the "elbow" by chance?
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80 gr. TTSX at 3,600 fps out of a .240, 130 # doe at 85 yds. I dug double hands full of clot out of the cavity. Fair amount of damage inside the chest, she ran 100 yds. Had to find her at night in the woods. DF
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R H Clark,
You might want to contact Hornady about that. I've shot quite a few animals with the 139 Interlock, both flat-base and boattail, from the 7x57 and .280 Remington, on game up to cow elk sized. They've mostly exited, and the few I did find were mushroomed back to the Interlock ring.
Any company can put out a bad batch of bullets. I was talking to Hornady official this spring and he said once in a while they get somebody on the line who tries to hurry things up. The result can be shallower Interlock rings, higher inside the jacket.
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I think I am going back with the 130gr SP Hornady Interlocks, never had a failure with any caliber, and half the cost. I'm using 117 BTSP in 25-06, and working on 180gr 300 win mag. Can't go wrong with the Hornady line for deer sized game in my opinion. I shot 3 deer over the weekend with 139 grn Interlocks from a 7mm-08. Every bullet fragmented into very small fragments and left me chasing them through the meat and even throwing away a bit because it likely contained fragments. I dug out several very small fragments. I didn't find anything larger than 1/10 of those bullets. All shots were from 20 - 80 yards though. I used to use them in the 7mm STW and got 90% exits with spectacular kills. One thing though, I used the flat-base version, the boat-tail likes to come apart.
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Not a 270, but I used a 100 gr TTSX in a 257 Weatherby on a 5-point white tail a month ago and it completely destroyed the front end - you'd have needed to eat it with a straw. 177 yards on the laser afterwards. It was a perfect heart shot, cut a notch out of the top of the heart and took out all of the big blood vessels coming out of the top. It still ran 71 paces. Every 10 feet or so it looked like someone had sprayed a gallon of red paint on the snow. The only bone hit going in and out were ribs. Both sides were layered bloodshot from the brisket to the withers and part way up the neck.
I've been using X's of one kind or another since they first came out 25+ years ago, and have never seen damage like this. This was the first Tipped X that I have shot an animal with, and the first blood for my 257 Wby, although a grand total sum of one doesn't prove anything. The load was a 100 gr TTSX over 76 grains of Magnum and a Fed 215 in Weatherby cases, and according to the Chrony is going just shy of 3600 fps corrected 15' from the muzzle. I have no idea how fast it would have been travelling at 177 yards, but WOW, I'm a little leary to use it again. been using the same as you just used, for 3-4 years now, and have never seen damage like that. But from a few years of hunting, every now and then something happens you don't expect. Will say though, we stay off shoulders and always have done so.
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We lost most of that shoulder--despite the bullet only going through the shoulder blade and not the joint. Couldn't be.
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Yeah, that's what I thought too!
The most consistent way I've found to minimize meat loss even with monometal bullets is to keep muzzle velocity moderate--and keep the bullet in the ribs.
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Good to hear how many people have never seen this sort of damage with a TSX, so know it can't happen. I've put hundreds of thousands of rounds through various Remington 700's and never had a bolt handle come off, but I know it can happen.
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Good to hear how many people have never seen this sort of damage with a TSX, so know it can't happen. I've put hundreds of thousands of rounds through various Remington 700's and never had a bolt handle come off, but I know it can happen.
Damm funkiller that MD is....... Yeah, reality overdose, for sure... DF
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Going in one side, out the other and destroying everything in between is what TSX's do best, and the reason I use them.
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High velocity bullet impacts destroy meat. You'd be disappointed if they didn't. 7mm 120g TTSX @ 2900 Entrance Same hole under the hide.
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Damage on the ribs shouldn't bother anyone.
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