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My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting.
I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags
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My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting.
I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags Yep. Anything that gets built from here on out (strictly hunting stuff for me) gets that setup - no more BDL bottoms.
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I've only one rifle with an AICS type mag - a 22lr so it's not really important but would a little bit of moleskin on the mag tighten it up - no rattle?
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My AICS mags don't rattle in Hawkin Hunter bottom metal. Use them for all manner of hunting.
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My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting.
I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags Yep. Anything that gets built from here on out (strictly hunting stuff for me) gets that setup - no more BDL bottoms. Amen brother... I happen to know a guy that sells them too 
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FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING
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TB, CWD and Covid-19 , free so far.....
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FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING I can attest that the Midway Nitro Express shipping has nothing on REDVANES. 
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FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING I can attest that the Midway Nitro Express shipping has nothing on REDVANES. Haha thanks Buddy
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That'd work for me - easy to swap out the bolt knob.
And given the price, they're going to get prettier and prettier to folks with each passing day. I'm telling you, when I started looking at them yesterday my first reaction was, "MEH". Then the longer I stared the more I liked  You and me both. Although I would like a Mausingfield. I think a lot of the distaste with ARC actions comes from that bolt knob they use, which can easily be changed for $30-40. They are their own style with 10-32 threads, but there are some options out there. The looks grew on me too, I've tried the bolt knob on a mausingfield, and the design works well for running the action fast. The owner of ARC and designer of the action is posting interesting design information in the running thread over on the Hide, I believe he says black versions of the knob would be available for folks who don't like the heat treat straw color. I've been wanting to try the Archimedes action for a while and it looks like this one has most of the features (including the camming bolt handle if you want it) at a great price. The coned breech requirement for smaller cartridges means you can't use any existing prefits, but they seem well aware of the importance of getting some off the shelf options available, are publishing the tenon print and working with some suppliers to get that moving.
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That'd work for me - easy to swap out the bolt knob.
And given the price, they're going to get prettier and prettier to folks with each passing day. I'm telling you, when I started looking at them yesterday my first reaction was, "MEH". Then the longer I stared the more I liked You and me both. Although I would like a Mausingfield. I think a lot of the distaste with ARC actions comes from that bolt knob they use, which can easily be changed for $30-40. They are their own style with 10-32 threads, but there are some options out there. The looks grew on me too, I've tried the bolt knob on a mausingfield, and the design works well for running the action fast. The owner of ARC and designer of the action is posting interesting design information in the running thread over on the Hide, I believe he says black versions of the knob would be available for folks who don't like the heat treat straw color. I've been wanting to try the Archimedes action for a while and it looks like this one has most of the features (including the camming bolt handle if you want it) at a great price. The coned breech requirement for smaller cartridges means you can't use any existing prefits, but they seem well aware of the importance of getting some off the shelf options available, are publishing the tenon print and working with some suppliers to get that moving. PVA is working on prefits right now! Just had an instagram post about it
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My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting.
I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle. My gripes too!
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Hawkins Hunter BM and mag: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/BFXzGtX.jpg)
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It's like they said "how could we make the ugliest action possible," and didn't stop designing until finally adding a butt plug bolt handle.
I'm curious with Remington 700s becoming available once again and the economy seemingly not on the best footing, if the custom action market will cool off. Was discussing the ARC models earlier today with SKANE as a result of the huge price increases on the Defiance anTi and Tenacity. While the ARC may be fine actions, they are about as hidilous looking as it gets. I'd rather spend my money on a blueprinted Rem 700 than any of the ARC actions.
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It’s as “ugly” as all the other custom actions folks gush over. Only ugly I see is the bolt knob and you can change that out.
-gasp- glory be…..they offer nitride without charging more or adding wait time.
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you guys looking to get a action now why dont you look at borden or pierce
pierce starts at 995.00 and looks good
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FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING I read that long actions have to be modified for the Hawkins Hunter DBM - what exactly does that entail?
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