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I have had about all the older .300s. Still my favorite of all. I would go with the Win. You have dies and brass . With a 26 in. barrel the speeds you are looking at no problem. +1 schitsmell, I enjoy how your Imagination and Pretend,so RELIABLY takes you to places that don't exist and how you like to prove same...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/oZREXl.png) Keep trying,because you are doing fhuqking "GREAT!",you AMAZINGLY Inept Clueless Drooling Fhuqktard. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................ Lol
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We are about two hours apart, as I live in Gillette.
I know Josh at H-S. Good guy, and he shoots good as well.
In recent years he has been competing some in PRS and NRL.
If you want a 30 because you want a 30, get one.
If 600 yard is your max, anything you mentioned will work more than good enough.
My next build is a 30 as well...300 RSAUM. I originally had a 30 Nosler or the 300 PRC in mind, but when it came down to what I wanted, they had more recoil for what I wanted in this build. Sold my 300 PRC brass, I think I still have the 30 Nosler though...
I already had a good stash of Norma 300 SAUM brass, and it will work great for my application (Center-Grip Remington XP-100)
Tim King of King Custom outside of Rapid, is doing the build for me.
Plan on using the 166 Hammer Hunters. Mule deer and elk mainly.
More of a 600 yard and under gun. More likely the 200 yards to 500-550ish yards
I have some big 6.5's and 7's if I want to stretch things out.
The 175 ELD-X has great accuracy for me in my 7mm Dakota, and have taken one mule deer, and a handful of elk with it.
Reloader 33 has worked great for me in my 7 Dak and my 26 Nos with the 147's. So far I have only killed antelope with my 26 Nosler.
The 26 Nosler and the 7mm Dakota are both center-grip XP's, so the longer barreled versions, will even have higher MV's.
Get what you want. Yes Josh is a great guy, he is who I was talking with about the 7PRC. At this point I’ll try some 175 ELDXs in mine if I find some. Going to try the 168 Berger this year in it. Not going to bother with 180 match bullets because it’s a hunting rifle. The other thing I am considering is the additional punch a .30 has with 200gr plus bullets for Elk and up. I have shot steel to 800 but not where I am comfortable shooting game That far yet. Yeah the 7 is capable and I have used it in Elk with no problems. 300 WBY-seems like I’m giving up COAL when I could go 26” Win Mag for same speeds and have room in the Mag box. My 7 has a 26” barrel. For .30’s the Win Mag has Lapua brass available and set up/built for a longer bullets, it’s right there with the PRC.
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I don't have the new 7mm PRC, but I do have a 18" 7mm-300 PRC, and I run 190's at 2753. For deer I would use the 7mm 180 grain ELD-M's without hesitation in a 7mm PRC, 7RM, 7mm LRM, 280AI. In my old 7 SAUM XP-100, I used the 162 grain A-Max's for deer and antelope, and they never failed me. Since I am using shorter barrels, than most my MV's will also be slower, so the 180 ELD-M should work great in rifles. The new M's may open up just a smidgen faster than the older A-Max's. Maybe because of the new tip....I am not sure why, but that seems to be the case. With the cartridges you are mentioning, your impact velocities will be high enough to work with about any bullet you decide to choose with a max distance of 600 yards. With the Berger's, I would make 2000 fps my minimum impact velocity. I have had iffy performance with Berger's on game, so I have started using other bullets. When it comes to elk, I don't think you can go wrong with a 7mm or a 30 cal., but I would use my 6.5-284, 6.5 PRC, or 26 Nosler for elk. 7mm has always been my favorite caliber for elk. Not saying it is the best, it is just what I like. Last year, I hunted with a 280AI and a 6.5 PRC for my cow/calf tag. Filled the tag with my 6.5 PRC. When I decided to use the 6.5 PRC, I didn't take the time to put a lighter weight/slimmer profile scope on it (I had it set-up for distance), but it still worked just fine. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/EDBWA6bl.jpg)
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300 Win Mag is never a mistake, my 700 action allows 3.675" COL's, 230 OTM's over 79gr Retumbo for 2890 dont suck either.
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300 Win Mag is never a mistake, my 700 action allows 3.675" COl's, 230 OTM's over 79gr Retumbo for 2890 dont suck either. Those were pretty wicked in my RUM at 3050 as well, accuracy wise. Never shot into fur.
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300 Win Mag is never a mistake, my 700 action allows 3.675" COl's, 230 OTM's over 79gr Retumbo for 2890 dont suck either. Those were pretty wicked in my RUM at 3050 as well, accuracy wise. Never shot into fur. Yep, me either Big B, they gotta have a lotta chitcan to impart ; ]
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I’d think so. I’ve always been too chicken to run them while hunting.
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Yes Sir, they are fun on 1125 yard steel though.
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I’d think so. I’ve always been too chicken to run them while hunting. Shooting the 230 OTM at 3075 fps from my 300 NMI and plan to use it this year for a cow elk tag I have. Worked just fine on a buddies bear at a bit over 350 yds today. Shot broadside in the shoulder crease which was bang flop with about a 2.5” exit. As to the OP unless I was set on the .30’s I would rebarrel with a 1:8 7mm barrel of choice throated to run the 180 eld’s with room in the mag to chase the lands. Have owned a handful of 7’s so chambered and had no issues getting over 3k with Retumbo or R26
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300 Win Mag is never a mistake, my 700 action allows 3.675" COl's, 230 OTM's over 79gr Retumbo for 2890 dont suck either. Those were pretty wicked in my RUM at 3050 as well, accuracy wise. Never shot into fur. Yep, me either Big B, they gotta have a lotta chitcan to impart ; ] Hey, what's wrong with you 2. Haven't you heard. We shouldn't be shooting at game further away than 100 yards because the animal can't hear the shot, so it's unsportsmanlike.. Or something to that affect.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I’d think so. I’ve always been too chicken to run them while hunting. Shooting the 230 OTM at 3075 fps from my 300 NMI and plan to use it this year for a cow elk tag I have. Worked just fine on a buddies bear at a bit over 350 yds today. Shot broadside in the shoulder crease which was bang flop with about a 2.5” exit. As to the OP unless I was set on the .30’s I would rebarrel with a 1:8 7mm barrel of choice throated to run the 180 eld’s with room in the mag to chase the lands. Have owned a handful of 7’s so chambered and had no issues getting over 3k with Retumbo or R26 Thanks MA. I think I could use them and was going to this year, but I had issues getting ahold of any extra for the year, so I scrubbed them off the plate. Maybe this coming year I'll make a conscious effort to try them out.
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The 30 Nosler is the most modern 30 cal case design.
It fits well in a Remington with out a Wyatt upgrade, it needs very little rail work to feed smooth and
it’s pretty good with 210 Berger’s.
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I don't have the new 7mm PRC, but I do have a 18" 7mm-300 PRC, and I run 190's at 2753. For deer I would use the 7mm 180 grain ELD-M's without hesitation in a 7mm PRC, 7RM, 7mm LRM, 280AI. In my old 7 SAUM XP-100, I used the 162 grain A-Max's for deer and antelope, and they never failed me. Since I am using shorter barrels, than most my MV's will also be slower, so the 180 ELD-M should work great in rifles. The new M's may open up just a smidgen faster than the older A-Max's. Maybe because of the new tip....I am not sure why, but that seems to be the case. With the cartridges you are mentioning, your impact velocities will be high enough to work with about any bullet you decide to choose with a max distance of 600 yards. With the Berger's, I would make 2000 fps my minimum impact velocity. I have had iffy performance with Berger's on game, so I have started using other bullets. When it comes to elk, I don't think you can go wrong with a 7mm or a 30 cal., but I would use my 6.5-284, 6.5 PRC, or 26 Nosler for elk. 7mm has always been my favorite caliber for elk. Not saying it is the best, it is just what I like. Last year, I hunted with a 280AI and a 6.5 PRC for my cow/calf tag. Filled the tag with my 6.5 PRC. When I decided to use the 6.5 PRC, I didn't take the time to put a lighter weight/slimmer profile scope on it (I had it set-up for distance), but it still worked just fine. Super cool, great work! Do you have a hair trigger on that beautiful handgun?
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The 30 Nosler is the most modern 30 cal case design.
It fits well in a Remington with out a Wyatt upgrade, it needs very little rail work to feed smooth and
it’s pretty good with 210 Berger’s. 300 prc?
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30Nosler has more case capacity and a better shoulder angle and neck. The neck is not by much but.
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30Nosler has more case capacity and a better shoulder angle and neck. 1 - true 2 - with pronouncements like this, you’ll fit right in around here. Welcome to the fire.
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7mm Hart...1/8 barrel...180gr ELD or a 150gr SuperBulldozer... done.
If you must have a 30 cal then the 30 Nosler is worth a look.
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Why not do the easy thing and make it a 300 Weatherby. It is a bit faster than the 300 Winchester and not the canon the big 300's are. You will get the most for the least with the Weatherby.
I am betting that somewhere soon, Big Stick will pollute this thread again, but needless to say, regardless of his interference, the Weatherby does continue to shine as a 300 magnum. It is also a great old cartridge developed in the infancy of magnums.
P.S. When all you do is shoot rocks and your mouth off, there isn't much left to do but post stupid findings with no history of even shooting anything bigger than a Sitka deer or a bear and conclusions from that can be successfully extrapolated to an honorable mention in the school of loser retards...
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I don't have the new 7mm PRC, but I do have a 18" 7mm-300 PRC, and I run 190's at 2753. For deer I would use the 7mm 180 grain ELD-M's without hesitation in a 7mm PRC, 7RM, 7mm LRM, 280AI. In my old 7 SAUM XP-100, I used the 162 grain A-Max's for deer and antelope, and they never failed me. Since I am using shorter barrels, than most my MV's will also be slower, so the 180 ELD-M should work great in rifles. The new M's may open up just a smidgen faster than the older A-Max's. Maybe because of the new tip....I am not sure why, but that seems to be the case. With the cartridges you are mentioning, your impact velocities will be high enough to work with about any bullet you decide to choose with a max distance of 600 yards. With the Berger's, I would make 2000 fps my minimum impact velocity. I have had iffy performance with Berger's on game, so I have started using other bullets. When it comes to elk, I don't think you can go wrong with a 7mm or a 30 cal., but I would use my 6.5-284, 6.5 PRC, or 26 Nosler for elk. 7mm has always been my favorite caliber for elk. Not saying it is the best, it is just what I like. Last year, I hunted with a 280AI and a 6.5 PRC for my cow/calf tag. Filled the tag with my 6.5 PRC. When I decided to use the 6.5 PRC, I didn't take the time to put a lighter weight/slimmer profile scope on it (I had it set-up for distance), but it still worked just fine. Super cool, great work! Do you have a hair trigger on that beautiful handgun? It does have a Dell Trigger (LIGHT), and since it is a single shot, I don't load it till I am ready to use it.
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