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I like to ask any one here like the above german 4A reticle for average deer hunting let say out to 200 yards?
I did read they are excellent in low light conditions but I wonder how much different are they compared to the duplex reticle?
I have a mil dot on my 30-06 from Sightron that I really like but out to 200 yards the set up is excellent.
I was thinking on the Sightron German 4A scope

For my taste they are far superior to a duplex. Many (not all) agree. What I can tell you is that any\every one I ever had look through a #4 and asked to quickly aim at something was impressed with how quickly they could do it. Removing the thick upper vertical crosshair seems to simplify things and I find I tinker less with fine tuning my exact point of aim. It seems to 'bracket' a kill zone instinctively.

Anymore if I can't find a scope in a #4 I just don't buy it. My typical range is the same as yours - within say 225yds. I prefer it where the posts stay thick until very close to the center.

I'm a huge fan of the 4 vs. a Duplex. Not that a Duplex is bad, but I just really like the 4 a lot. Seems less cluttered with that fine wire pointing to 12:00.

ditto on D-cup...both topics...

Like them especially for low light, say under 100 yards visible and can put up the ones with the non-rangable wide center spaces for shooting long--using the heavy lower post for an extra 400-500 yard zero. Need fine crosshairs on those for me, like the 2nd plane Leica & S&B.

FWIW, I think Zeiss 2nd plane #4 is top dog but like/use the FFP #4 euros too. Swaro 4a has lighter posts than the Zeiss but has always worked well for me. Have used the Lupy "German 4" and works fine for short yardage, dimly lit stuff in native MI...sure miss Premier's Lupy conversions...

It depends on the subtention of the center section IMO. I had a #4 installed in a scope and it had the same subtention in the center that a standard duplex has. Nice bold posts and a thinish center section. I gave the scope to my son. I have two scopes with Leupold's post & duplex reticle and one with the heavy duplex. Both have a 1" @ 100 yards subtention for the center section. I like the P&D better. To me a #4 or #4a is a great reticle if the center section is thicker than a duplex. If not, they're not an advantage to me.

No experience with sightron, and all are not equal when it comes to #4 reticle patterns due to different subtensions. But, it is one of my favorite all around reticle patterns when it comes to medium and big game. Generally, the #4 is not quite as bold as the #1 when it comes to a dedicated reticle for driven game in cover during times of poor light, and it is not as precise as some duplex type reticles for a finer precision on small targets at above average distances. But it does cover the middle ground extremely well.

I prefer the 12oclock post to be non-existent. Hence I prefer the 4, no need for a bold post at the top

For almost any hunting rifle I prefer a #4 or #4a, to the point where I end up paying more for almost any given scope since the #4's seem to command a premium over the duplex.

I had a German 4a in a Leupy 6 x 42. My son took his first whitetail, an 8 point, with it. Loved that setup. Rifle was a LH Tikka 595 in .223.