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Was flogging on my Wapoint 243 Kreed this morning and playing in the wind at 1400yds+ with 112's. It's a handy NASTY Bitch. Hint...........
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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.............. I’ve jumped on the 6.5CM wagon with both feet. I'm really sorry to hear that. 
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Tim, I plan to shoot paper and game…deer sized down to whatever needs killing’. The deer thing probably rules out the .22's. Brass availability is one of the biggest concerns I'd have. Get your brass supply secured at the outset. Rock on with whatever you can dream up after that. Curious why the deer thing would rule out .22’s?
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If I "lived" in a State that precluded .224" bore size,I'd build a 224 Speedmire and the shank would read "Speedmire" and cases would be Alpha 243 Kreed based. Hint.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Probably, not absolutely. If the chambering has enough powder capacity, and an appropriate bullet is used, then it will do the job quite well. I don't think a .22 would be my choice if the deer are large bodied, midwest types, and long ranges are possible. It's strictly an energy at distance thing.
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This will be funnier than fhuqk! Hint.
Cite your minimum "energy" requirements,at a given distance. Hint.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I totally forgot about the energy part. Good call.
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I do not live in the Midwest and I forget about the different energy requirements from region to region. I guess that is why many of us are here so we can learn from others.
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.............. I’ve jumped on the 6.5CM wagon with both feet. I'm really sorry to hear that. 
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Probably, not absolutely. If the chambering has enough powder capacity, and an appropriate bullet is used, then it will do the job quite well. I don't think a .22 would be my choice if the deer are large bodied, midwest types, and long ranges are possible. It's strictly an energy at distance thing. So, what energy is required to kill Midwest whitetails?
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That’s a blast from the past! Haven’t heard that round mentioned in over a decade I think. As I recall is was dialed in using the 55 grain sized bullets moving at 22-250 speeds. I’m looking at the 22GT and 22CM.
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That’s a blast from the past! Haven’t heard that round mentioned in over a decade I think. As I recall is was dialed in using the 55 grain sized bullets moving at 22-250 speeds. I’m looking at the 22GT and 22CM. Mine shoots a 75 gr A-Max at about 3500 fps
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I'm simple....22 or 6 CM.
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Have been doing same since inception,ala 22-250AI. Pass the 224 Speedmire,vastly superior brass,far greater COAL,88's and hold The Fluff. Hint.
I've got (5) of 'em. Hint..............
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Probably, not absolutely. If the chambering has enough powder capacity, and an appropriate bullet is used, then it will do the job quite well. I don't think a .22 would be my choice if the deer are large bodied, midwest types, and long ranges are possible. It's strictly an energy at distance thing. 147 pages for your viewing pleasure.😂😂 Seriously good read though. Very informative, and very counter to the longstanding myth. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Have been doing same since inception,ala 22-250AI. Pass the 224 Speedmire,vastly superior brass,far greater COAL,88's and hold The Fluff. Hint.
I've got (5) of 'em. Hint.............. CHIT Stick.......I think you have 5 of everything...........What speed are you running with the 22-250AI?
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The 22-250AI and Speedmire,are largely birds of a feather,as capacity/performance goes. 3200fps+ is a breeze in either/or,with 88's. Hint. Speedmire,22-250AI and CHeetah. Hint. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/924/PiTg6s.jpg) I drive Alpha 224 Speedmire Virgins,to form 22-250AI and as illustrated,the amount of brass moved is rather modest. I'd never build a 22-250 AI Today. Hint................
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Could do a 6mm CM for the easy button.
Lots of options depending on what you want to do with it.
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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