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Again. I clearly indicated it's Not my work
by the string of footnote citations I gave,
and you are still making the false accusation
that I claim it as my work..I can't fix your kind
of stupid.


The fact you cherry pick what you want to attack is rather telling..
Why would you not want professional medical citations
for snake bite emergency first aid procedures?

You are trying to deflect with pressure bandages. That was not the subject of the stolen post about which I took you to task. Moreover, it was not you who proposed pressure bandages for bites from Australian snakes. It is in fact part of the established treatment protocol here.

The issues with your "string of footnotes" are several. First, you did not acknowledge that what you posted, above those footnotes, was directly lifted from someone else's work, and you pretended this was your own expertise. Second, you lifted the footnotes holus bolus from the post from which you stole, to lend credence to what you said, without attributing the substance of your post to its author. Third, you didn't read, or understand the material you footnoted, much of which had nothing to do with the material you stole.

Like I said, you are the Google king, stealing material and pretending to be the world's leading expert on everything, but you are nothing but a blowhard and a bullsh!t artist. This is by no means the first time for you. You aren't fooling anyone.

No just pointing out your blatant double standards Where You will complain when
I cite a string of sources for the info I posted...but then you don't call people out
for not citing med.sources regarding recommendations on snake bite emergency
first aid...too funny.


My response to KiilerB did in fact mention Pressure bandage application both in favor
and contra dependent on the snake/venom type and skill level of person applying such.


You make that claim without appropriate
citation from medical professionals.
People here also claim cutting and sucking
the wound works....who to believe?


I made no such claim. And anyone checking
the sources I gave would know that it wasn't.
You really are desperate to try make your false
accusation stick while the evidence contradicts.

You didn't "cite a string of sources for the info" you posted. The sources you cited, badly, had clearly not even been read by you, and were in large part unrelated to the "info" you posted.

I know that pressure bandage, keeping the patient calm and immobile is part of the established protocol here because among other things, I have had formal training in it, extending over 40 years, do a regular refresher training which includes it (including practical) every two years, and have applied it to actual snake bite victims. Moreover, there's already been the St John's WA material posted. There's numerous sources for this. They even teach it in schools here. Plenty of clinical guidance material on line for you. You are the Google king, go ahead and look it up.

You are a joke.

LoL. All we are hearing from you is that 'You know' and folks need to trust you?
No citations of professional medical repute to back any of your claims.

Of course that is not to forget Struan Sutherland's seminal paper on this in the Lancet, back in 1979:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/84206/

Well that wasn't that hard was it?
Now perhaps read the CF where
I did discuss pressure bandages
And retract your blatant lie that I didn't.

Chill 💊

Yes, but too hard for you to do, clearly.



Hahaha. You can't help yourself. No, you idiot. I neither said that, lied nor do I resile from one word I posted.

Take your bullsh!t somewhere else. GFY

LoL, so you won't read the CF where I clearly
Proposed the pressure bandage pros/cons?
you rather stick to your lies...


You sure about that?

Starman, the article you cling to is more than a decade old and several years out of date.

Treatment protocols are now recognising the value of immobilisation by bandage to reduce blood flow when providing first aid to Viper envenomation. The recognition of maintaining flow of blood in the affected limb whilst simultaneously constraining that flow has changed treatment. With the newer specifically designed pressure bandages with the squares to gauge amount of pressure it is a more reliable treatment and like the cuff used to measure blood pressure it does slow blood flow through the limb, less in, less back to the body. It is a soft splint.

However, the bandage presents difficulty in tracking progression of the venom and there is a significant danger if the bandage is removed without other control measures in place.

The best immediate treatment is keep the limb low, no exercise and HOSPITAL STAT!

But, if you must walk to a cleared area for medevac, or all the way to a road for vehicle pickup the pressure bandage is far superior to nothing. It is about managing contradictory risks.

Then cite current med. sources supporting the
methodology of pressure bandage in NA viper envenomation
..I'm only aware of some which suggest a firm bandage over
the bite site.

The source I cited stated:
" jointly endorsed by the American College of Medical Toxicology,
the American Academy of Clinical Toxicology,
the American Association of Poison Control Centers,
the International Society on Toxinology,
the European Association of Poison Centres and Clinical Toxicologists,
and the Asia Pacific Association of Medical Toxicology,
and concludes that pressure bandage with immobilization (PBI)
cannot be recommended as pre-hospital care in areas such as
North America, where non-neurotoxic snakebite is the norm."

Can you confirm that any or all of those Named entities
have changed their above position?


And you failed to address the follow on
'blood layer' anatomy query I put to you
...why is that?