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I was leaning towards the Ruger 375 Alaskan. Brass is hard to come by though. Agree with your statement about hand loading.
Thanks for the info
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Hola Gringo....
Was referring to .30-378wby, Ultra Mags, Lapua Mags as "Big Volume Ctgs"
The .375 H&H etc has lesser volume than the standard Weatherby ctgs and the 8mm Rem Mag ctgs. I am not a fan of the Express length magnums.
Dunno if the old standby 10gr Unq is usable in the H&H? Detonation is pretty likely in a lg capacity ctg, most of those only work with big charges of slow burning powder, iirc.
The .375 has a good bullet weight range, from 235 (maybe some lighter), on up to 350gr. I know some guys tout the .375 Whelen, but not much shoulder on that one. The .375/284 enables same powder charge and ballistics but has more shoulder area. That would be a good One Gun round for AK. I never tried any light loads in the .375 ruger I used to own. That is a pretty excellent round in all respects. Easy to improve any standard Belted Magnum to .375 Ruger; unless it's Express length.
The .375 Weatherby is the AI'd version of the H&H. Very good choice if you like an Express length ctg. Hogan, I am loading the AI version of the H&H…..pretty much a .375 Weatherby without the radius shoulder! memtb
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Hola Gringo....
Was referring to .30-378wby, Ultra Mags, Lapua Mags as "Big Volume Ctgs"
The .375 H&H etc has lesser volume than the standard Weatherby ctgs and the 8mm Rem Mag ctgs. I am not a fan of the Express length magnums.
Dunno if the old standby 10gr Unq is usable in the H&H? Detonation is pretty likely in a lg capacity ctg, most of those only work with big charges of slow burning powder, iirc.
The .375 has a good bullet weight range, from 235 (maybe some lighter), on up to 350gr. I know some guys tout the .375 Whelen, but not much shoulder on that one. The .375/284 enables same powder charge and ballistics but has more shoulder area. That would be a good One Gun round for AK. I never tried any light loads in the .375 ruger I used to own. That is a pretty excellent round in all respects. Easy to improve any standard Belted Magnum to .375 Ruger; unless it's Express length.
The .375 Weatherby is the AI'd version of the H&H. Very good choice if you like an Express length ctg. The 375 Wby and the 375 H&H AI are not the same cartridge. The AI is a small amount larger and lacks the radiused Wby shoulder.
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I am always interested in reading Swamplord’s posts. He is pushing the envelope and doing very interesting things. I always learn something PLUS unlike BS he writes clearly and is civil.
I wouldn’t attempt to do the hunting which I do with one of his rifles because they don’t fit with my hunting methods. However, what he uses works for him. A big plus is that he has actual experience. There isn’t any conjecture.
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You have a team of Mals? I got a team off Alaskan huskys and been looking for some good Malamutes. Any chance your looking to downsize your kennel a bit? Swamp, no push-back from this guy. I respect what you're doing. You're specialized, unique and a very successful hunter. You work hard for your equipment and go through great efforts to be precise and ethical with your shots.
You post hilarious memes, and are not boring.
You even poke fun at my "potato-shaped bullets".
Anyways, nobody runs your style, it's just different and many folks are too quick to disrespect that.
Like you, my way is different. I was in the back of a gun truck in Iraq, drawing canoes on graphing paper during fuel-stops. Other soldiers found that to be weird.
I hunt only by the canoes, dog sleds and dog teams I build, which is still weird to many.
I wouldn't know the first fkn thing to do with a scope turret or complicated reticle. Just like these guys judging you wouldn't know the first thing to do running with a fkn team of Alaskan Malamutes. You have a team of Mals? I've got a team of huskys now but have been wanting some Malumutes. Any chance you want to downsize your kennel a bit?
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Sled dog guy, Thanks for your interest in my malamutes and congrats on the fresh snow, I bet your AK huskies must be really amped up.
I'm not currently selling or rehoming any of my dogs. Nor do i have a litter planned for quite some time.
I usually have a litter of pups every 2-3 years. They're slow to mature and grow, so it's not like huskies that are race-ready as yearlings, hence the 2-3 year training commitment to a litter of pups, before I contemplate having another litter.
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I completely understand. Still looking though, so if you or someone you may know happen to be looking to sell a few dogs try to let me know.
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My thoughts are that if you're including sheep and goats and deer along with moose, brown/grizz, and caribou, that you're going to compromise. A .375 would be great for the big stuff, while a flat shooting, wind cutting caliber is better for the far stuff.
I'm going .300 Weatherby mag for everything. It demolished my 10 foot brown bear first shot...I'm a believer.
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I have sought after "ideal" niche weapons for so many years that it's kind of a crazy question. However, I'd go as low as 7x57/7mm-08 and up to 375 H&H. But mid-ground cartridges: 30-06 or 300 Win Mag is where I'd settle if forced. I've never owned a 300, and like my '06s just fine, so...
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Well the rifle to handle the bigger stuff is going to be a 375 H&H. My best friend found a Sako in one.
Need some brass, and dies.
And a scope somewhere in in 1-8ish range:)
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300 ultra mag for me probably
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To cover most of the bigger animals in alaska what caliber would you choose? 375 Ruger ? 338 Win? 300 UMag? The 338 Winchester & 375 Ruger have worked very well for me on moose. Due to visibility, I will not be shooting over 230 yards in the present area that I hunt. A 20" 375 Ruger is a favorite.
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I am always interested in reading Swamplord’s posts. He is pushing the envelope and doing very interesting things. I always learn something PLUS unlike BS he writes clearly and is civil.
I wouldn’t attempt to do the hunting which I do with one of his rifles because they don’t fit with my hunting methods. However, what he uses works for him. A big plus is that he has actual experience. There isn’t any conjecture. Somehow I missed the responses to this thread but Thank you for the kind words sir .... Everybody has a personal limit in their abilities & the equipment they possess, some tend to use their own insecurities, lack of ability, knowledge, experience & training .. & attempt to shout others down, simply because they feel inferior & that sends them into a rage .. It's psychological insanity that they cannot control, something very prevalent on the 24 Hr Campfire with some of the members most of these fktards were still in their diapers (or an itch in their daddy's britches) when some of us were shooting shyte way beyond 1k, the others are old fkrs set in their ways & think everybody should adhere to their standards ..... I saluted them with one finger & did & do whatever the hell I wanted ... Freedom is awesome ! (wasn't that supposed to be America's theme ?) now we have these would be Socialists trying to tell us which cartridge we must use & how far we can shoot.... Pic below is me about to leave on my 2004 solo moose hunting trip for two weeks into the Alaskan wilderness around Talkeetna with nobody to keep me company but the big rock Mt.McKinley & my trusty buddy & best friend the 500 S&W Mag on my side Dear God I was so good lookin back then, wtf happened to me now ? lol ! Sako TRGS M995 chambered in 7.82 Warbird good out to 1500 yards ... Doing long range hunting before it was cool .. 2004 was a very successful season... I made it back home alive, lol ! with a monstrous moose rack, yo ! ...
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Swamplord, Thanks for your posts and photos! Though, in this most recent photo…..your youth and inexperience is noted with your choice of handguns. Obviously at the time, you were not aware that it was far too heavy and had far too much recoil to be effective in the field! 😉 memtb
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Swamplord you should wright a book about your hunts with pics. it would be a good 👍
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Actually, Swamplord, the guys at longrangehunting were shooting Moose down Palmer way at over 1000yds and posting about it in the late 90s. Guys were also shooting elk across canyons in the lower 48. Not as minimalist as you but 97/98 was when I discovered that forum. Even bought a takeoff .338 rum sendero fluted barrel off one of them. Just about the time the .338 Edge was developed or launched.
As far as longrange venues in the late 90s, the other one was snipercountry. The duty roster there was an interesting member exchange. The main contributors, reviewers, organizers there were writing articles for the tactical oriented magazine published by long defunct Precision Shooting.
There was a guy who used to post on the old snipershide lived over Dillingham way who shot lots of moose with a .50 beowulf and posted pix pretty often back around `05/6. Not many were hunting with the EBR back then.
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Roger that some of us were using 300 Win Mags, 300 & 340 WBY's before the 300 Rum appeared, then we switched to the bigger dog, I had my gunsmith rebuild my 1st 300 RUM with a longer barrel and chambered in a 300 Rum Improved, it was a gunboot ATV carry rifle only, but worked very well off a bi-pod to shoot across valleys
The Sako in 7.82 Warbird shot so freakin good I wasn't gonna chop it up back then, it also was an easy carry rifle for hiking up the bumps on the map, was why I used it so much
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One of the beauties of this state is that there is room and opportunities for all of us where we can paddle our own canoes. The size, terrain, game and weather of the state sort out the fit and competent and if I have learned anything it's that there are numerous "right" ways Phil i discovered what a night stuck in the bush while guiding for caribou. then i read your shiswash article when back to civilization: a great lesson to all.
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