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I just pulled out and old Vari x ll gloss 2x7 with friction windage and elevation turrets. Really bright and great field of view.
My question is how does it compare to the new Freedom series 2x7. Does anyone have experience with the Vari X ll and Freedom?

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Yes. The optical clarity and ability to see in low light is better on the Freedom.

I have not had any trouble with either maintaining zero. But I typically don’t check zero unless I miss a deer.

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The Freedom line has better lens coatings, but both scopes will do the job for most people under most conditions.

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Isn't the Freedom a cheaper scope?


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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The Freedom line has better lens coatings, but both scopes will do the job for most people under most conditions.
This ^^^^

Originally Posted by ihookem
Isn't the Freedom a cheaper scope?

No. Especially if you consider the era of manufacture of the VX-ll. They even brought out a VX-llC as an upgrade to make it more comparable to their competitors scopes.

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Originally Posted by drover
No. Especially if you consider the era of manufacture of the VX-ll. They even brought out a VX-llC as an upgrade to make it more comparable to their competitors scopes.

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Vari-X II
Vari-X IIc
VX-II
VX-2

The Freedom’s glass is allegedly the same glass and coatings as the VX-2, but different tubes and some differences in internals.


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Originally Posted by drover
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The Freedom line has better lens coatings, but both scopes will do the job for most people under most conditions.
This ^^^^

Originally Posted by ihookem
Isn't the Freedom a cheaper scope?

No. Especially if you consider the era of manufacture of the VX-ll. They even brought out a VX-llC as an upgrade to make it more comparable to their competitors scopes.

drover

Nitpick alert grin: VX and Vari-X are not the same thing, and Leupold's nomenclature means abbreviating Vari-X to VX causes an error in identification. It was the Vari-X II which evolved into the Vari-X IIc which had more adjustment range than its predecessor.


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The Freedoms are good scopes, just a lot uglier than their predecessors……


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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by drover
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The Freedom line has better lens coatings, but both scopes will do the job for most people under most conditions.
This ^^^^

Originally Posted by ihookem
Isn't the Freedom a cheaper scope?

No. Especially if you consider the era of manufacture of the VX-ll. They even brought out a VX-llC as an upgrade to make it more comparable to their competitors scopes.

drover

Nitpick alert grin: VX and Vari-X are not the same thing, and Leupold's nomenclature means abbreviating Vari-X to VX causes an error in identification. It was the Vari-X II which evolved into the Vari-X IIc which had more adjustment range than its predecessor.

And it causes no end to confusion……😊

There ARE improvements in the glass and coatings in each generation.


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