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My siltarp is a Guides Siltarp 2 made in Canada by Integral Designs. I guess that shows how old it is lol. But it gets used almost every year in the mountains and still going strong with only a few tiny holes. It’s 8’x10’ and in the stuff sack it weighs 14.5 oz.

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One thing to consider is that silnylon will absorb water, even if doesn't leak. Then it stretches and sags and needs occasional tightening. Silpoly repels water so that's not a problem.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
One thing to consider is that silnylon will absorb water, even if doesn't leak. Then it stretches and sags and needs occasional tightening. Silpoly repels water so that's not a problem.
What’s the differences,excuse my ignorance. Are they coatings on a nylon?
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One thing to consider is that silnylon will absorb water, even if doesn't leak. Then it stretches and sags and needs occasional tightening. Silpoly repels water so that's not a problem.
What’s the differences,excuse my ignorance. Are they coatings on a nylon?
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It's the difference between nylon and polyester fabric. The silicone coatings are the same. Nylon's a bit tougher and slightly lighter but there's that water problem. For the most part, it's not a big deal but if you get caught in a long rainstorm, It'll start sagging.


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Originally Posted by DavidReed
ZPacks 7’x9’ Dyneema tarp weighs ~5 oz. Mine never leaves my pack and gets used quite often when hunting, scouting, camping…


ZPacks tarps

These look very interesting if I replace my current Siltarp. Very light but also expensive.

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I used my Integral Design Silnylon 5x8 poncho/tarp during a rainy Friday night football game this weekend and had forgotten how well it worked.

I’ll look at the silpoly tarps though, good to know.

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Jordan, is it the RAB brand?

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Mine was made by Integral Designs, but I think it's made by Rab now.

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OK, thanks.

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Oware 10x10 is a classic.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
One thing to consider is that silnylon will absorb water, even if doesn't leak. Then it stretches and sags and needs occasional tightening. Silpoly repels water so that's not a problem.

Very true about SilNylon.
On a five day swamp hunting trip in Blackwater WMA using my Gheenoe boat.
''One night'' > 1, of constant rain and my new'ish henry shires contrail tent was sagging onto my sleeping bags, [WM mity lite/MLD bag/blanket on top].
When the rain slowed I put my Equinox poncho/shelter over it, put the bags inside Equinox bivy, both SilNylon. By the end of day two all three were soaked through. The synthetic MLD blanket with Event material did a pretty good job of keeping the down bag dry, enough so that I toughed it out, a bit soggy.
I tightened the tarptent just enough to try and get by, then some high winds blew in and damaged the tie-outs, etc..

I sent the tent back to HS Tarptent and emailed them pictures. Their ''policy'' was if something happened and the tent was not abused, they would repair it for free. They charged me for everything shipping/repair/return shipping. TarpTent is no longer a company I would buy from.
Just about anywhere can get rain/wet snow conditions keep that in mind with silnylon products.

I've been looking over everything I can find 'the perfect' super light weight drop and flop for a night or two, >dizzy'ing I tell ya.
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Originally Posted by ol_mike
I've been looking over everything I can find 'the perfect' super light weight drop and flop for a night or two, >dizzy'ing I tell ya.
Over.

After a decade or so of tarp/bivying, I finally settled on this; 17 oz all in (stakes and guys)- less than most bivy/tarp setups. But has a full bathtub floor, insect protection, sets up quickly, small footprint and a decent vestibule.

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^^^^ mtwarden .. what is that? Looks good!


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Originally Posted by T_O_M
^^^^ mtwarden .. what is that? Looks good!

Tarptent Aeon Li- it's a solo tent, but more than adequate room for me; not giving them away, but I've been very happy with it smile

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17 ozs? Wow, that’s impressively light.

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Originally Posted by Keepemsharp
17 ozs? Wow, that’s impressively light.

not too shabby smile no poles though, you have to use a single trekking pole (or they sell a fold up pole at a couple of ounces)

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I like this Bear Paw Diamond Solo Dyneema @ 9oz., $345, although the 125''/10+' stake to stake makes me go -hmm. That's where the thought of bivies small foot-print is nice, BUT, I like being inside and having a coffee and a donut before I crawl out and head out.
I keep circling back to this tent.


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^^^^ mtwarden .. what is that? Looks good!

Tarptent Aeon Li- it's a solo tent, but more than adequate room for me; not giving them away, but I've been very happy with it smile

Cool. Thanks much. That one is on my list. A few years ago I switched from a Notch to a ProTrail. For me it wasn't a good switch .. seems like as I get older and less flexible, side entry gets more and more attractive. My tarps are all DCF now minus one and I think I want to go that way with my next tent.


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