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Originally Posted by Kaleb
What I’m gathering from this thread is this. Al is explaining nothing is perfect and it’s very easy for him to make things close to perfect himself. Most of us don’t have that talent and skill.

What many of us are saying about Manners is we wish they were as close to drop in as a $150 B&C or Boyd’s.

Checked the prices on B&C stocks lately ?


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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus
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Yeah, don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

I have the skills to do it, but I don't do it every day and getting things to turn out like your pics is not easy.

Most will pay their smith to fix the problems on a $900+ stock or send it back, both adding more time and money to a project that could have and should have been right to start with.

No worries, sir. Sounds like your needs are being met and standards achieved.

Good shootin' and all the best. smile -Al

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Is there some sort of adapter on that one?


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Originally Posted by Craigster
Originally Posted by Kaleb
What I’m gathering from this thread is this. Al is explaining nothing is perfect and it’s very easy for him to make things close to perfect himself. Most of us don’t have that talent and skill.

What many of us are saying about Manners is we wish they were as close to drop in as a $150 B&C or Boyd’s.

Checked the prices on B&C stocks lately ?

No sir.



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Originally Posted by SKane
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Is there some sort of adapter on that one?
There is, but that's not the source of the leak.

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Originally Posted by SKane
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Is there some sort of adapter on that one?
if I read this right it has an adapter on it and a muzzle break? What kind of dumb bass suppressor manufacturer puts a brake inside a can? Not one that can make a good one. Lane cans suck

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Originally Posted by Higginez
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Originally Posted by Kaleb
What I’m gathering from this thread is this. Al is explaining nothing is perfect and it’s very easy for him to make things close to perfect himself. Most of us don’t have that talent and skill.

Thanks, Kaleb.

Honestly, I don't have any more talent or skill than anyone else. It's really just a matter of doing it. Yes, a mill and lathe make it 'easier', in a way. But not always. For quite a few years, I did inletting and pillar work on a drill press with a 5" compound vise bolted down to it. With the drill press quill tweaked to reduce the wander, it worked just fine. Still does. Then I got a import 7X12 mini lathe and making pillars, escutcheons, screws, etc. became a lot easier. Heck, I still use the mini lathe for a lot of things since it's right in my gun room.

The bottom line for me is that for less money spent on a stock that doesn't fit, a home tinkerer (like myself) can acquire all the tools needed to do the work himself. Thinking a project through and ending up with a good job is pretty rewarding for almost everyone, I think.

Good shootin' smile -Al

Yeah, don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

I have the skills to do it, but I don't do it every day and getting things to turn out like your pics is not easy.

Most will pay their smith to fix the problems on a $900+ stock or send it back, both adding more time and money to a project that could have and should have been right to start with.

A lot of stocks are not perfect from the manufacture. You just deal with it. It's not hard to do, but does take a little time. Some are worse than others, they make it harder than it needs to be. The pre 64 trigger guard I posted a pic of earlier is something that mcmillan just does not like. For those of you calling it a poor design, it is what it is, and they are spendy. If they do not inlet it right, you will have to fix it. I prefer milling the stock and not touching the factory trigger guard. Both methods are easy to do, that is up to you, but I'd rather deepen the inletting on the stock rather than fu ck up a factory part. YMMV..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by Craigster
Originally Posted by Kaleb
What I’m gathering from this thread is this. Al is explaining nothing is perfect and it’s very easy for him to make things close to perfect himself. Most of us don’t have that talent and skill.

What many of us are saying about Manners is we wish they were as close to drop in as a $150 B&C or Boyd’s.

Checked the prices on B&C stocks lately ?

Damn near every aftermarket stock company is charging more now. The damn Tikka stock I have that I got for free, costs $500.00, so B&C is not real cheap anymore either. I will say the inletting was damn near perfect on that one though. Take that for what it is worth..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Is there some sort of adapter on that one?
if I read this right it has an adapter on it and a muzzle break? What kind of dumb bass suppressor manufacturer puts a brake inside a can? Not one that can make a good one. Lane cans suck
Muzzle brake only. That's part of the problem. The brake directs the gas at the seal, which won't handle the pressure even without the brake. The brake simply makes a bad situation worse.

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Higgins: In terms of pure satisfaction, this pre 64 Model 70 ranks right up there for me. It took a lot of work after others had given up on it....including properly addressing the trigger guard situation. wink It's subtle but all there in the pics. wink

The note the owner sent me hangs in my my gun room:

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Nice work Al. Great pictures.


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Thanl you, Al and BSA for addressing my question about how you would go about fixing the problem.

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For what it’s worth I received a greyboe today that was ordered during the thanksgiving sale. Barreled action dropped right in and so did the m5 bottom metal. All I’ll do is skim bed it or maybe not? Will see how it shoots in the new stock. Only a sample of one though.



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Originally Posted by Kaleb
For what it’s worth I received a greyboe today that was ordered during the thanksgiving sale. Barreled action dropped right in and so did the m5 bottom metal. All I’ll do is skim bed it or maybe not? Will see how it shoots in the new stock. Only a sample of one though.

If nothing else I would maybe bed the lug a little and see what it will do.

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Originally Posted by Kaleb
For what it’s worth I received a greyboe today that was ordered during the thanksgiving sale. Barreled action dropped right in and so did the m5 bottom metal. All I’ll do is skim bed it or maybe not? Will see how it shoots in the new stock. Only a sample of one though.

I hunted a bit the last 2 years with a rifle in a GB stock. Same action but I switched barrels/chamberings from last year to this. I've left it unbedded...first time I've done that with a rifle in a long time. With both barrels it shot very well. The M5 inlet has been perfect for 3 different M5 bottom metals I've used with it over the last 2 years. Should mention the action dropped in as well, but it's set up for pretty much any contour.

A drop in fit for an action and bottom metal should never be off for a company that specifically lists them in a drop down list.

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