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So is McMillan inletting for the new center-feed detachable magazine and hinged floorplate from Savage yet? If so I need to get an order in!
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OK, does this lack of responses mean no or that ya'll have no clue?
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Just read a post a few minutes ago about a member getting one for his wife's center feed Savage.
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I found my answer elsewhere... According to the information I found McMillan presently only offers stocks for the center feed blind magazine. The only exception being you can get an A5 setup for the detachable mag (DM) or hinged floor-plate (HFP). This really doesn't surprise me as the depth of the belly is now critical with these two magazine options, and they'd likely have to alter the stock design & molds accordingly. Savage isn't helping things either with how they're trickling out one small change a year rather than doing it all in one shot. Two years ago it was the change to the short-action screw spacing to accommodate the new bottom metal on the DM and HFP bottom metal, this year it was the new center feed blind magazines, and next year (2008) it will be the implementation of the new bolt release system (which has been in the works for nearly 3 years now). It's easy to see why few of the aftermarket stock makers have bothered to modify their designs yet for the new stuff as it's still evolving. Unfortunately though, Savage's process means there are going to be a couple years of bastard guns out there you won't be able to get stocks for....those with the old-style flag bolt release and center feed DM or HPF magazines. I will say though that it's about d mn time Savage got rid of that ugly flag-lever bolt release setup. For those who haven't seen the new system, here's a photo. The right rear of the action will no longer have a machined flat, and the bolt-release is a stylish button that's part of the front of the trigger guard. (Just ignore the fugly engraving and gold highlights...I've already chastised Ron Coburn and Brian Herrick for screwing the pooch on the 50th Anniversary Model 110's.)
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So I could get The Sako 75 or Sako 75 Hunter design stock to replace the factory one in edge technology? Could I also get it in a swirl pattern??
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No to the Edge with swirls, paint only.
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So the lightest weight McSwirl stock I could get will weigh 32oz, unless I went with a Standard paint job Edge?
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Rick
I was just looking around the Campfire Gear Shop and noticed that the HTG (M40A1) stocks are offered with Edge Technology for Remingtons and Savages but not Winchesters. This would be a great stock for the "heavy barreled lightweight" rifle I have in mind that will be based on a M70 action. Is it an option I can order?
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Rem Classic, 13.375 LOP, factory mag b/c, factory bdl floorplate, 1" decelerator, standard fill that weighs exactly 33 oz is going on my 700 SPS SS 257 Roy....
Rick, thanks for this thread and also for looking thru your stuff for me...
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I'm in the process of buildng up several "lifetime" hunting rifles that once built, will hopefully last a lifetime without additional work except for rebarreling. Long-term durability in fairly hard hunting conditions and standing up to lots (tens of thousands of rounds) of shooting over a lifetime are high on my priority list. Durability wise, does a magnum or sniper fill buy me more durability in the long run?
Does a standard fill buy more durability than an Edge fill, again, in the long-term?
I won't say that weight is not a concern but it is a far removed concern next to durability and accuracy. A finished rifle in the 8.5-10 lb range is fine for my needs.
Everything will be professionally pillar bedded.
Thanks for any input.
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Does Mcmillan make the tactical grip on their classic stocks instead of the checkering? This picture is what i am trying to get on a standard classic remington stock. I am trying to replace a LA CDL stock. Canoli
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Our classic stocks have checkering not texture. The only stock that has texture that has the most sporter look to it in our tactical stocks would be the HTG.
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This has probably already been touched on, but. Can the "standard fill" be had for MAGNUM cal's(375 & 416 Ruger). And would there be any difference in the stock strength with this fill? Rifle in question will either be a 375 or 416 Ruger Alaskan. Thanks
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Those calibers must get a Mag Fill or Sniper fill.
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I don't mean to offend by this comment... But... What makes a stock worth $500+? I see the B&C Fiberglass stocks at less than $200. ?? Never seen a McMillian in person as my hunting partners are cheap! : ) I guess my real question is why a McMillian and why are they so expensive?
I am looking to build a custom rifle and exploring stock options...
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Rem Varmint pattern with gel-coat, SA700 BDL, 1" Decelerator, 13.25 LOP, Krieger Heavy Palma inlet, sniper fill. Weight is 44oz. Hadn't seen many stats on this pattern, so I figured I'd add it to the thread.
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My old pre-64 .375 has a McMillan stock and seldom wears a scope. The custom Mod. 70 .338 I do most all of my hunting with wears a 21 oz. Bansner's. Unless one needs it for balance or to tame recoil I see no need to put a heavy stock on a hunting rifle you are carrying all day. I guess I would be looking at a Bansner's or Edge stock if I needed another synthetic.
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I placed on order by phone on May 10th directly to McMillan for a new stock.
I can't wait for it to be shipped to my gunsmith for bedding.
It is a Ruger Classic a McSwirly (50% black/50% white) with stainless sling studs, standard 13.5 lop, and Pachmayr recoil pad.
This will be my first McMillan stock. Up to now I was using HS Precision stocks.
The stock is going on a newly re-barreled Ruger 77 MK/II that has a new 24" Hart stainless #3 barrel chambered in 6.5x55.
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Hi Guys:
I just got off the phone with Dick Davis at McMillan (he sounds great!), and he clarified for me the issue of fill weights for McMillan hunting stocks.
The straight skinny is as follows:
McMillan hunting stocks come in three fill weights, and three fill weights only:
1] Magnum fill (for magnum calibers)
2] Standard fill (will weigh 2 to 2.25 pounds)
3] EDGE technology.
That's it. Bottom line.
"Light as possible for caliber" gets standard fill.
"KS" or "kevlar" fill gets standard fill.
Magnum, standard, EDGE. Them's the choices.
The shopping cart here has been modified accordingly.
Rick So their CZ Express stock for the CZ 550 Magnum action should be their heaviest? Is it a significant step up from the CZ Bell & Carlson synthetic stock? I have a 500 Jeffery I want to be able to take to Alaska when I go back in a few years, so will swap out the wooden stock for the trip, then swap back. With the 500 Jeffery, heavy is good ...
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