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Hard to beat a nice M54 in any caliber Amen, Ted, amen! (And to toll the virtues of a Remington on the Winchester forum is blasphemy in its highest form!    )
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz
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Hard to beat a nice M54 in any caliber Except for the crappy triggers.
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Hard to beat a nice M54 in any caliber Except for the crappy triggers. I’m very fond of M54’s, crappy triggers and all. One must realize that the newest one you’ll find is 87 years old. Really enjoy shooting vintage guns with old two stage triggers, receiver or open sights and low comb stocks…..a true test of one’s shooting skills.
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Maybe I'm just lucky, but every 54 I've owned had a very nice usable trigger, which breaks lightly/cleanly on the second stage of the pull. A lot of guys who missed growing up on 2-stage triggers on Springfields, Mausers, Krags, etc. or who have self-indoctrinated themselves against them, will decry their existence or at best damn them with faint praise. The protocol of taking up the slack of the first stage (put there for a genuine safety precaution), holding it there while fine tuning the sight picture, and then giving it the final squeeze, is so ingrained into my very soul that I don't even think about it. And, no, I have zero problems when switching around on my guns which employ every kind of trigger known to mankind - it's not that hard to think about what you're doing!
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz
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Or to NOT think about what you’re doing Gary
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A model 54 would be cool. Wonder how that cartridge functions in a bolt action? I can see a CRF maybe working better than a push feed. I can assure you that Winchester got it right with this rifle! My 30WCF feeds so smoothly that I have been known to open the bolt to make sure the cartridge was picked up from the magazine. I own both a Krag and a Mannlicher-Schoenauer (famous for their smooth actions) and this M54 is pretty dang close to them. The Lyman 48 and long sight radius with the 24" barrel makes for some fine shooting even considering my 74 yr old eyes. I have considered selling mine because of my poor vision but, at least to this point, I'm hanging in there with it! I'd love to take at least one deer with it using my home cast PC'ed bullets. No deer offered itself up for sacrifice while I was carrying it this past season. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Atmwn4lm.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/OlORPpKm.jpg) That is a really cool rifle! I just bought a 788 30-30, the one I mentioned earlier. It’s set up like a target rifle. There was a bunch of reloading components and die sets, and a couple boxes of factory ammo, scope mounts, rings. Etc, etc. rifle in new contrition, also came with targets shot by original owner. I’m hoping I will be able to shoot it as well as he did!! I had an older buddy by the name of Stony Miller he was raised on the south end of the Warm Springs Indian reservation got his start in Law enforcement for the tribal police their. Anyhow he took a job with malhuer County sherif department late 89-90 he was down in Jordan valley and he told me about guys showing up to rifle matches in eastern oregon in the 80’s early 90’s with these no frills 788 and beating guys with high end bench rifles. I wonder if the rifle you have was one of these rifles my friend was talking about. I want to say he was down in that country 90-92 time frame maybe earlier. Cool info John. This rifle doesn't look like it's been shot much. However, he had reloading data and info on the rifle from 1985-1994, and maybe even 2020. I'll start a thread in the hunting rifle forums, where guys can mock/criticize it. I'll probably throw a scope on it to see what it can really do, then after load development, I'll go back to the target sights. The rifle came with a schidt ton of stuff, including a Canjar set trigger. It's a beauty. I'll post pics in a different thread. I’m sure whatever was popular for shooting in that part of Oregon was probably popular in northern Nevada as well. Those 788’s in the 30-30 were popular on the Rez I remember seeing a few of them. Even a couple 44 mags in 788.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
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I grew up in a house full of Winchester 52s and 70s, plus a few Remington 37s, so I was indoctrinated from an early age to appreciate the value of a crisp trigger. While two-stage triggers might have been a good idea for military rifles, if they were such good an idea commercial rifles manufacturers would have adopted them.
Despite their crappy two-stage triggers I like the over-all aesthetics of the Savage 1920s and 20/26s, proving that logic goes out the door in the world of rifle looneyism.
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