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I’d be better to go to a high fence place every other year than pay what I do for lease, diesel, food etc That's fair. And how I feel about having a 150K boat to chase trout. I just pay the dang guide and he cleans the fish and the boat.
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I’d be better to go to a high fence place every other year than pay what I do for lease, diesel, food etc Economically speaking, yes! GWB
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We have a high fence property that borders our property...... it’s several hundred acres (not sure of the exact size) It has affected our productivity over the last few years But ms made it legal... so we deal with it But damn When you can walk up to the fence and literally pet does and 140-160” class deer through the fence What the hell is the point????? IMHO high fence ain't hunting. Hunting out of box stands over feeders sitting on shooting lanes ain't hunting. I call that stuff harvesting. So according to this criteria, a tree stand overlooking a green field is harvesting too, and not hunting. I did not say anything about green fields. There have been "green" fields here before the white man, lol.
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I'd love to put a high fence around my place to keep the dam trespassers and ATV riders out!!!!!
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I’ve got mixed opinions on high fences. I’ve hunted in them and outside of them and everything was just as wild. While I don’t like them, I respect a man’s decision to do with his land as he pleases.
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I'd love to put a high fence around my place to keep the dam trespassers and ATV riders out!!!!! That was a big plus my bud saw after high fencing a thousand acres of Red River hardwood bottomland. DF
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About a mile away from here, the owner of an apple orchard high-fenced his whole place, then replanted with young trees to replace the old ones. The benefit to me is that the stretch of road along his place is no longer a major deer-collision zone. There’s a small patch of woods on the property, so it’s likely some deer were inside when they closed it off, but I’ve never seen one on the inside as I drive by. Maybe they killed them all.
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I’d be better to go to a high fence place every other year than pay what I do for lease, diesel, food etc If we’re going to boil it down to economics we should just buy beef.
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I’d be better to go to a high fence place every other year than pay what I do for lease, diesel, food etc If we’re going to boil it down to economics we should just buy beef. GWB beat me too it.
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I didn’t post this on the Pics From the Farm thread because I don’t want to rain on that parade, but when I look at the pictures of those bucks it makes me sad. The horns they were forced to grow are beautiful to look at but I feel bad for the animals we turned into a science project and genetically manipulated to grow them for our amusement/entertainment.
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I didn’t post this on the Pics From the Farm thread because I don’t want to rain on that parade, but when I look at the pictures of those bucks it makes me sad. The horns they were forced to grow are beautiful to look at but I feel bad for the animals we turned into a science project and genetically manipulated to grow them for our amusement/entertainment. I'll post it for you.
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I’d be better to go to a high fence place every other year than pay what I do for lease, diesel, food etc If we’re going to boil it down to economics we should just buy beef. Then you're doing it wrong. I spent under 100.00 and put three deer in the freezer last season. The season before I killed six deer and spent less than 200.00. That includes license/tags, gas, ammo, freezer paper and tape. That comes out to well less than 1.00 per pound. If you know where I can buy beef for that I'm all ears.
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I’d be better to go to a high fence place every other year than pay what I do for lease, diesel, food etc If we’re going to boil it down to economics we should just buy beef. Then you're doing it wrong. I spent under 100.00 and put three deer in the freezer last season. The season before I killed six deer and spent less than 200.00. That includes license/tags, gas, ammo, freezer paper and tape. That comes out to well less than 1.00 per pound. If you know where I can buy beef for that I'm all ears. Ok, [bleep] girl. LOL
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I've hunted a good number of high fenced ranches.Every one of them was different.The fence allows the owner to manage the animal that live within the fenced property.Some ranches run high density,feed the heck out of the animals and may spend hundreds of thousands of dollars annually.Those ranches generally are a little easier to hunt.Then I hunted one ranch that did not feed,kept populations low and managed the numbers so the natural habitat only supported the deer.That ranch was 1400 acres.It had about 120 deer and you were lucky to even see one.The season harvest was set by a biologist and it was usually about 12 bucks and 12 does.So it really depends on the property and how it's managed on the inside whether it's an easy hunt or a hard one.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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Selmer "Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?" - my 3-year old daughter
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I've hunted a good number of high fenced ranches.Every one of them was different.The fence allows the owner to manage the animal that live within the fenced property.Some ranches run high density,feed the heck out of the animals and may spend hundreds of thousands of dollars annually.Those ranches generally are a little easier to hunt.Then I hunted one ranch that did not feed,kept populations low and managed the numbers so the natural habitat only supported the deer.That ranch was 1400 acres.It had about 120 deer and you were lucky to even see one.The season harvest was set by a biologist and it was usually about 12 bucks and 12 does.So it really depends on the property and how it's managed on the inside whether it's an easy hunt or a hard one. "Only" 120 deer on 1400 acres ? 50+ deer per square mile does not equate to "hard hunting". Around here our population runs 15-30 psm. A couple hours North it runs around 5 psm. If 50+ deer psm is hard hunting you don't know what that means.
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I've hunted a good number of high fenced ranches.Every one of them was different.The fence allows the owner to manage the animal that live within the fenced property.Some ranches run high density,feed the heck out of the animals and may spend hundreds of thousands of dollars annually.Those ranches generally are a little easier to hunt.Then I hunted one ranch that did not feed,kept populations low and managed the numbers so the natural habitat only supported the deer.That ranch was 1400 acres.It had about 120 deer and you were lucky to even see one.The season harvest was set by a biologist and it was usually about 12 bucks and 12 does.So it really depends on the property and how it's managed on the inside whether it's an easy hunt or a hard one. "Only" 120 deer on 1400 acres ? 50+ deer per square mile does not equate to "hard hunting". Around here our population runs 15-30 psm. A couple hours North it runs around 5 psm. If 50+ deer psm is hard hunting you don't know what that means. The difference is nearly all of it is thick thorny brush.Your not going to do well in that stuff trying to stalk one.You might get lucky and catch them crossing a road and that's not often either.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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I've hunted a good number of high fenced ranches.Every one of them was different.The fence allows the owner to manage the animal that live within the fenced property.Some ranches run high density,feed the heck out of the animals and may spend hundreds of thousands of dollars annually.Those ranches generally are a little easier to hunt.Then I hunted one ranch that did not feed,kept populations low and managed the numbers so the natural habitat only supported the deer.That ranch was 1400 acres.It had about 120 deer and you were lucky to even see one.The season harvest was set by a biologist and it was usually about 12 bucks and 12 does.So it really depends on the property and how it's managed on the inside whether it's an easy hunt or a hard one. "Only" 120 deer on 1400 acres ? 50+ deer per square mile does not equate to "hard hunting". Around here our population runs 15-30 psm. A couple hours North it runs around 5 psm. If 50+ deer psm is hard hunting you don't know what that means. The difference is nearly all of it is thick thorny brush.Your not going to do well in that stuff trying to stalk one.You might get lucky and catch them crossing a road and that's not often either. You can still hunt/stalk here but public land is heavily forested so visibility is limited. In this area the hunter success rate on bucks is about 15% and the buck take runs about 2 psm. Our annual buck harvest is made up of 55% 1.5 year olds, 30% 2.5 year olds and 15% 3.5 years and older so what a Texas private land or high fence hunter would consider a "shooter buck" are few and far between.
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