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Shooting Paper at any distance is BORING !!! as HELL, shoot Steel. Rio7
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Shooting Paper at any distance is BORING !!! as HELL, shoot Steel. Rio7 You’re right. Audettes might work on a big steel plate at looong range
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As a person who does not own a chronograph what I'm hearing is your group at the target (group size) is more important than knowing your velocity. It sounds like shooting a ladder of different powder load sizes until you find an accurate load is more important than knowing what your velocity is. Factoring in good sound loading techniques of course. It's not that having a chronograph is not helpful, (to determine ballistics) but it should not be the primary deciding factor. Ultimately the group size is the ultimate decision maker when you choose powder, load and bullet selection ? kwg Edit: https://precisionrifleblog.com/2012/07/13/creighton-audette-ladder-testing/
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Ultimately the group size is the ultimate decision maker when you choose powder, load and bullet selection ? You shoot a bunch of one-shot "groups" at a piece of paper. The Audette method looks for tight vertical dispersion, not a "group" per se.
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Ultimately the group size is the ultimate decision maker when you choose powder, load and bullet selection ? You shoot a bunch of one-shot "groups" at a piece of paper. The Audette method looks for tight vertical dispersion, not a "group" per se. I interpret that as the charge gets larger you would expect the POI to rise. However, when you get to a string that is flat with the same or similar POI's a person could look at those loads closer in order to find the "best" load. Just my interpretation . Thanks, I appreciate the information. kwg
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Ultimately the group size is the ultimate decision maker when you choose powder, load and bullet selection ? You shoot a bunch of one-shot "groups" at a piece of paper. The Audette method looks for tight vertical dispersion, not a "group" per se. However, when you get to a string that is flat with the same or similar POI's a person could look at those loads closer in order to find the "best" load. Just my interpretation . Thanks, I appreciate the information. kwg Not necessarily.
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