There's none in the stores and little or nothing online.

I have an easier time finding 16 & 28 gauge ammo.

Hmmm, Must be a Conspiracy …

I foolishly shot up my last flat that I had squirrelled away, practicing for grouse season .

🥴

A noble purpose, but a stupid move.

I have been scrounging under the seats and in the door pockets and center consoles of my Jeep, my 1/2 ton truck, my 3/4 ton truck, my old suburban, my old Nissan Pathfinder, my Polaris Ranger...X2...and RZR, as well as closets, unmarked ammo cans, hunting coats/vests, drawers, garage, boxes in the loafing shed, and in the cargo container.

I have enough for a good grouse hunt.

I've noticed the same. Plenty of 12 gauge locally, even 16s and 28s are easier to find. Only thing worse is 410s they're nonexistent

There seems to be a smattering of #8 shot, but that bounces off mature late season chukar.

L2S : I don’t know about your hunting area, but for me inconsistency of that sort in loads might just add to the hunt. Ha

You can find it behind the Hodgdon 4350.

Bruce, I was going to PM you the location of some 20ga FS almost in your backyard, but your Inbox is over the limit. You need to empty the mailbox if you want any more messages.

A gunshop employee recently told me that most of the 16 and 28 ga. ammo we're seeing in the stores right now is from pre-Covid manufactured stock. Because the demand was never as great as it is for 20 ga., it didn't disappear completely.

Interesting, but I can't guarantee its accuracy.

Here's the size of the grouse we have. #6 and #5 shot are the correct medicine. I wish America would wise up and start loading #7 shot, not that neither fish/nor fowl #7 1/2.

I have two cases of Nobelsport 1oz #8 coming. Found on ammoseek.com. $120 a case with free shipping, more than the stuff our club sells, but I really like those.

Other sources I shop were out. Going rate for 12ga 1 and 1 1/8oz loads local and online seems to be $100 a case. If you can find .410s for $20 a box, and you need them, better jump on a few.

I wish someone would start importing Hull cartridges.

Bruce, I have a bag of #7 shot, that's my main size for sharptail, chuckar and incidental hun. Last I was in Sportsman's they had a bag at a price that made my eyes cross and my willy shrink......

Plenty of 20 ga. shells in Scheels Missoula today.

Here in Amarillo TX I can buy all the 20 gauge I want. But I can't remember the last time I saw any 410 shells on the shelf. I've ordered it online but sure haven't seen it locally in a long, long time.

Depends how bad you want it.

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/20-gauge?sl=2%203%2F4&ss=5

Leave it to Dan....he always has the answer!!

Well that didn't work.

You get the idea.

What load? There is all kinds of slug loads, some steel in bigger shot size, and a bit of bizmuth around, some 5-packs of turkey ammo, but try to find decent upland loads in 5 & 6 shot. It's as scarce as 410 ammo.

Any of it in lead shot 5s or 6s in field, high base, or 3" in those? Nobody has them that I can find, at least here or online.

I'm glad I also shoot a 16 gauge.

You can narrow it down to shot size.

I did 20 gauge, 2 3/4" #5 shot. Comes up with Remington Express XLR, Federal Prarie Storm and others.

I was gifted an old Mossberg, bolt action .410. The main purpose was for turkey hunting.
I could find some 2.5" #8's, but 3" with ANY shot size are absolutely nonexistent! 😖

I ended up having to purchase two 5 packs of Feferal 3" .410 with #9 TSS! That crap is $6/shell! 🤯

P.S. - but it is a blessing to be able to find 16 gauge ammo again. Selection is kinda slim, but bullets is bullets!

https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/fed-pfx258fs5-prstrm-20-2.75-1oz-2510-upl

I was lucky enough to score some boxes of Golden Pheasant before the worst of the crunch set in. Probably a lifetime supply, given the bird-shooting prospects these days. Also have turkey loads, slugs, and some buckshot, purchased and given to me.

https://grabagun.com/federal-prairie-storm-20-ga-6-shot-25-rounds-2-75.html

https://shopbfam.com/product/federal-pfx258fs5-prairie-storm-20-gauge-2.75-1-oz-5-shot-25-bx-10-cs

https://ammo.com/shotgun/20-ga-ammo...ot-lead-20-gauge-ammunition-from-federal

If link works scroll down to the 3rd offering, 20 gauge, 2 3/4" #6 field loads.

Not the case here if you use #6 or #7.5 lead.

There is even a little variety of 28 and 410, but 16 is nearly impossible to find except for buckshot, slugs, and Federal #6. Fortunately #6 works well in my Heym combination guns, Mossberg 942KA, and Remington 870 and 1100.

Same here.

Even during the highest point in the ammo shortage, I could still find 28 ga shells when nothing else was on the shelves. I am seeing 12s coming back and once in awhile see a box or 2 of 20 but not often. 410 and 16 are no shows around here.

I must do more gun shows than you
L2S, Shotshells in any gauge aren't a problem for me, find them all the time. Have mec 600 jrs in all the gauges for loads I want but can't buy. What I need is a new Gordon or English Setter pup. Buy that young guy you take hunting a new 20 ga Mec 600 Jr so he can keep you supplied..mb

Sell one of those EXTRA, SPARE...etc vehicles and invest in a reloader.......make all you want.

yawn

Are those Chukar ? Never seen one hereabouts

here you go
https://www.reedsgunsandammo.com/ammunition/federal-20ga-game-shok-6-2-75in-25rds-h2006-029465072667

I have two cases of it, but can't shoot a shotgun anymore

Good load, 20 gauge and #5 shot.

Top are sagehen, and the last two photos are dusky grouse (blues).

Thanks for the link. I'll get a few boxes. I use mostly high base ammo for our chukar, but this is a good dusky grouse load.

I posted links from 2 places for some Federal Prarie Storm up above.

Thank you for the links. I bookmarked them.

That outfit ships quick, they also have some great ammo deals if you poke around on their site.

It is starting to get back to normal here. Just a guess, but I've noted an uptick in interest in 20 ga shotguns and folks are buying ammo as soon as it hits shelves to feed them. I found the best prices and a good supply at the shooting club where I shoot. $14 OTD for 1oz of #7 1/2 shot @1250 fps. It is Clever brand from Italy. Never heard of it, but the guy at the club says it is pretty good. I'm shooting a round of clays in a couple of hours and will know more then.

The shortages have this time changed forever how a lot of people by ammo. Instead of buying a box or two they buy a flat..Not because they are shooting more...but they are finally understanding having ammo when you need it is your responsibility not some retailer to provide it...mb

Scheels in Fargo ND has #8 STS loads by the case for 109. Federal top gun for 99. They have almost every other 20 gauge ammo you could ask for. They also have a good selection of 16 and 28 ammo, and a full line of 12.

Hi-base and 3" 5s and 6s are what we shoot most of here, and those are not on shelves, nor are they in inventory at the online sales...or they are limited in some cases to 2-4 boxes.

MB, it sure is the job of retailers to supply what the consumers want and need. THAT'S their business.

L2S, it's only their business to sell what they can get. Some production manager or admin turd decides what is made and that choice is allways gonna be what turns over the fastest. Specialty loads like you want aren't stocked anywhere but pheasant country here in the Dakota's. Get online with Scheels or maybe Dakotamart in Pierre SD, or Cabelas in Mitchell SD. Your best bet that I can see...mb

I saw a bunch of 20 gauge shells in Walmart yesterday. I guess I should go back and buy some since there is a shortage.

You should, and if you actually own a 20ga, buy them all…..

Honestly, I can’t believe anyone is still depending on stores for their needful things these days. I was in Costco yeserday hoping to score some lump backfin (no dice), and decided to buy some of their Columbian coffee beans. Again, no dice.

If you’re out and find what you want, sure go for it, but waiting, wishing, and hoping it’ll show up just doesn’t get you the goods anymore. Costco online has the coffee I want.

Our Walmarts around here seem to have enough to get a guy by in 12 and 20 with a smattering of 16 and 28 thrown in. No boutique loads, but I could hunt about anything from dove up to geese with their offerings if I had to.

Rogers has some, but all in case quantity.

Kent Fast Lead in 6's and 7.5s
https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/Ult-FL-Upland-20g-23-4-1oz-8

Rio Royal Pheasants in 6's
https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com...4-1-oz-royal-pheasant-copper-plated-shot

Winchester Super Pheasant in 5's
https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com...easant-copper-plated-diamond-grade-loads

Given that about all I use a shotgun for is for turkey hunting, I've probably got all the shotgun shells I'll ever need,

410 bore are tough. But every few months you find some if you are looking. If you are lucky its a good gun store and will see you cases.

Good luck.

I'm feeling a bit caught too. Even though I haven't shot a shotgun in years we only have less than 10 of those half cases of 12 left laying around. Wife demanded more buckshot so we bought 400 rounds of that a few months ago.

20 I've not even looked for. Though last times I was in an Academy they had every gauge except 410 bore.

People buy shotgun shells in less than half case quantities. The 250 round flats? I never really realized that I guess.

Maybe turkey shells but even if I wanted that I would be tempted to buy a flat to last for life.

Sage Hen

Hit up the Wal-Mart in Midlothian, VA. Shelf full of 20 gauge.

Was in a Walmart back in late summer, walked through and they had 20 ga Estate brand. Price label said 1.49. Waited 10 mins for someone to come the sporting goods counter to ask them to verify the price. Dude looked super annoyed as he pointed to the price label and said “it’s right here man”. I asked how many I could buy and he said he had bunch, while looking even more annoyed. I said I’ll take them all. Kept a flat for myself even though I rarely shoot 20 ga and passed the rest on to friends and family.

Stupid fooker. I am assuming someone had them miss marked. Don’t even feel guilty.

Same here. I picked up 3 of the 100 pack Federal #8's last time I was there. It all depends on being there at the right time.

Top picture are sagehen

The next two photos are Dusky (Blue) grouse.

These are chukar, the Devil-birds.

I always thought if a guy had #7 he could do very well on a lot of stuff.

Denser pattern than #7 but a little more energy than #7 1/2.

Might even work good on pigeons, IDK.

Checked out SW and a few Academy stores here recently. Zero 20 gauge and 410.

Back when I hunted pheasants a lot in PA, 7 1/2s were my favorites in an IC choked 12. Not sure why they seemed to do better than 6s, and patterning was a thing I never tried in those days, but they seemed to work very well. My brother OTOH, liked 6s or the 6&4 combo loads.

My 1oz 8s came yesterday. Oughta last me a few months since I shoot 12, 20, and occasionally .410 on clays once a week; usually two or three rounds. Almost out of .410s, and not sure I’m willing to fork over the bucks for more just yet.