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jail the beast and then sentence her 1 year in jail and a fine 5 years no running a boat.
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Wow, just saw the video. Wonder what the passengers on the plane were thinking.
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To endanger others is totally wrong.....no doubt!
Having lived in a peaceful wilderness area suddenly disturbed by noisy aircraft, I understand her frustration also!
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She will be facing a fine at a minimum, jail time... unlikely
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Looks like an inevitable clash to me.
Folks living there in a beautiful, quiet place. Guy using their neighborhood to make a buck, and negatively Affecting them.
Can't see much from the video, no idea what all happens there. But that's what it looks like.
Old timers vs "Progress". Old story.
Big dam fights here over the years. Several instances of folks buying a farm, then putting in a race track. Drag bikes, motocross, go-carts.....suddenly you have 150 cars on Sunday afternoon. On a little road that doesn't see that many different cars in weeks. And you hear race engines echo in the valley for miles.
How much aggravation can you project on your neighbors? For some, 6' grass is too much. For others, having the pictures rattle on the walls....
Not defending that at all. Folks could get seriously hurt. Do see how an unstable person might crack though. Hell, folks get shot in the suburbs for where they park.
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Looks like an inevitable clash to me.
Folks living there in a beautiful, quiet place. Guy using their neighborhood to make a buck, and negatively Affecting them.
Can't see much from the video, no idea what all happens there. But that's what it looks like. More complicated than that. She's kinda a known whacko and also owns the ferry and hates to see people have other access to the cove except her ferry. There's video out there from the Beaver's perspective too. Scary stuff that could have ended up with 8 passengers in cold rapidly moving water had she screwed up and hit a float.
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Are float planes required to be registered as a vessel? And does a float plane pilot have to have a captains license and all the CG approved equipment for a vessel for hire? Maybe the NTSB can put float planes in the same class as sail boats. This could get really interesting if there's enough money to push some of the federal issues on either side.
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the bay people that live there as residents can make rules like 4 -6 float plane trips a day less or more ,no flying Sundays or whatever. but that lady in the boat was very wrong and should be held accountable for her wrongful actions.
Last edited by pete53; 08/29/22.
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Looks like an inevitable clash to me.
Folks living there in a beautiful, quiet place. Guy using their neighborhood to make a buck, and negatively Affecting them.
Can't see much from the video, no idea what all happens there. But that's what it looks like.
Old timers vs "Progress". Old story.
Big dam fights here over the years. Several instances of folks buying a farm, then putting in a race track. Drag bikes, motocross, go-carts.....suddenly you have 150 cars on Sunday afternoon. On a little road that doesn't see that many different cars in weeks. And you hear race engines echo in the valley for miles.
How much aggravation can you project on your neighbors? For some, 6' grass is too much. For others, having the pictures rattle on the walls....
Not defending that at all. Folks could get seriously hurt. Do see how an unstable person might crack though. Hell, folks get shot in the suburbs for where they park. Wrong, predictable not inevitable, whacko owns most of the island thinks she can control the water and air traffic as well. Beautiful place with a reputation for turning away locals, good place to avoid
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This sounds really dangerous. Also interfering with a legal business is not a small thing. Would the "crazy lady defense" work as well if it were a man doing this? I bet not. Like Pete53 says, If you don't like the law, then change it. If not, then get out of the way.
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Are float planes required to be registered as a vessel? And does a float plane pilot have to have a captains license and all the CG approved equipment for a vessel for hire? No. It's registered as an airplane but on the water it has to follow the maritime rules of the road (give way to non-motorized craft etc.)
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Just one [very serious] question:
How many cats does she own?
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Jail time? Fines? Doubtful.. More like a politely served firm scolding. That family is politically connected as well as iconic within their community where she's probably more loved than loathed. You know, that special kinda love one has for their problematic child or maybe their favorite Pitbull. Ain't no way this is her first rodeo, that community is use to the families antics, they'll cringe and bare it, life will go on. It isn't like she shot holes in the tail or sumtin. A little short lived terror? Sure, but if those two clients the pilot picked up for their 'adventure day' to Katmai from the Still Point Lodge endured the shear terror of the rates that lodge charges, they could handle anything. $4,400.00 A night for 2 in the cheap room, $3,300.00 if your flying solo. The nice rooms are $10,000.00 a night for 1 or 2. The saving grace is they are only requesting a 10% lodge tip on their website. That little excursion to Katmai was a $2,640.00 'add on' for the day since the lodge don't have their own planes. A private fishing charter for 8 hours is another $6790.00 'add on' at that place. Being those appear to be contracted out services those captains and pilots would be shaking a tip can at you too. I'm sure if the Lodge would have been aware their clients were going to have such a memorable experience preformed by such a iconic individual it'd have been another $1,000.00 ea. 'add on'. They're in the wilds of Alaska and they had brush up with a wild Alaskan, get over it. They can leave their cellphone videos and social media posts at home.
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Jail time? Fines? Doubtful.. More like a politely served firm scolding. That family is politically connected as well as iconic within their community where she's probably more loved than loathed. You know, that special kinda love one has for their problematic child or maybe their favorite Pitbull. Ain't no way this is her first rodeo, that community is use to the families antics, they'll cringe and bare it, life will go on. It isn't like she shot holes in the tail or sumtin. A little short lived terror? Sure, but if those two clients the pilot picked up for their 'adventure day' to Katmai from the Still Point Lodge endured the shear terror of the rates that lodge charges, they could handle anything. $4,400.00 A night for 2 in the cheap room, $3,300.00 if your flying solo. The nice rooms are $10,000.00 a night for 1 or 2. The saving grace is they are only requesting a 10% lodge tip on their website. That little excursion to Katmai was a $2,640.00 'add on' for the day since the lodge don't have their own planes. A private fishing charter for 8 hours is another $6790.00 'add on' at that place. Being those appear to be contracted out services those captains and pilots would be shaking a tip can at you too. I'm sure if the Lodge would have been aware their clients were going to have such a memorable experience preformed by such a iconic individual it'd have been another $1,000.00 ea. 'add on'. They're in the wilds of Alaska and they had brush up with a wild Alaskan, get over it. They can leave their cellphone videos and social media posts at home. Yep, she's connected, FAA may have a different take on her antics.
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Looked like a great way to get shot to me.
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They're in the wilds of Alaska and they had brush up with a wild Alaskan, get over it. Sounds like she's missing out on a golden business opportunity. She could set up a viewing platform and tourists from all over would flock there to take photos of her in her natural environment. Kind of like Brooks Falls.
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Glad she didn't do it to me
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Some day she’ll go out to her boat slip and find her boat at the bottom of the bay.
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