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What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? #18088320 02/01/23 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 USA T TonyRumore OP Campfire Member OP TonyRumore Campfire Member T Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 USA I always thought it was the 280 Ackley, but it got Saami'd. What's number 2? Tony Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18088573 02/01/23 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,989 Central, Texas L LBP Campfire Tracker LBP Campfire Tracker L Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,989 Central, Texas 223 AI Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming. Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18088597 02/01/23 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,791 Columbia, S.C. SCGunNut Campfire Tracker SCGunNut Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,791 Columbia, S.C. There are a lot of K-Hornets around.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18088681 02/01/23 Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 221 D Dogpopper Campfire Member Dogpopper Campfire Member D Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 221 I would agree with the above or 257ai Robert’s. 17 Mach IV was popular before the fireball

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18088806 02/02/23 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,423 TN K Kaleb Campfire Tracker Kaleb Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,423 TN I would list some of the 22’s. 22gt and 22 creedmoor. You might not see as many of them but I bet the ones you do see get used pretty often. I have to think the 22 creedmoor would already be saami’d had it not been for covid and the election. Just a guess though.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18088822 02/02/23 Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16,828 Eastern KS S Spotshooter Campfire Ranger Spotshooter Campfire Ranger S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 16,828 Eastern KS Most people think accuracy makes for a splendid rifle so I’d say look at a PRC round if you want the higher probability of success on the accuracy tangent. They are now SAAMI but if you hurry I’m sure you can find one they haven’t standardized yet. Spot shooter www.prairiefireprecision.com

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18089371 02/02/23 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,042 Gallatin Gateway Mt. B BangPop Campfire Regular BangPop Campfire Regular B Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,042 Gallatin Gateway Mt. I don't know what the most popular is, but if it's not the 22 Creedmoor, it closing in fast on whatever is in the top spot.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18089706 02/02/23 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,094 AL Woodhits Campfire Regular Woodhits Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,094 AL Would be interesting to see numbers from the reloading die manufacturers-- probably the only objective method. I'd guess 22 K-Hornet based on zero data.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18089819 02/02/23 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,342 Lower Dakota Territory Al_Nyhus Campfire Regular Al_Nyhus Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,342 Lower Dakota Territory There are thousands of 30BR's out there. -Al Forbidden Zoner

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18090022 02/02/23 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,791 Columbia, S.C. SCGunNut Campfire Tracker SCGunNut Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,791 Columbia, S.C. Would think the TCUs would be high up there with the number of T/C barrels they churned out, JDJs to a lesser degree.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18090137 02/02/23 Joined: Feb 2022 Posts: 96 Navajo County, AZ P PaintedDesert Campfire Greenhorn PaintedDesert Campfire Greenhorn P Joined: Feb 2022 Posts: 96 Navajo County, AZ My small town has one gunsmith that’s built a lot of rifles for not only us, for others around the country. Not to make it sound like he’s big time, he is a small independent type that does maybe two dozen builds a year. I ask him this very question. It’s between the 338-06 AI and the 250 Savage AI. A few 223 AI too.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? SCGunNut #18091031 02/02/23 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,164 S.E. Alaska MuskegMan Campfire Tracker MuskegMan Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,164 S.E. Alaska Originally Posted by SCGunNut Would think the TCUs would be high up there with the number of T/C barrels they churned out . . . And of the T/CU's it'd be the 7mm version

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18091251 02/02/23 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,653 Queensbury N nyrifleman Campfire Outfitter nyrifleman Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,653 Queensbury On this site? Mashburn. I hear it's a cult. “Factio democratica delenda est"

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? nyrifleman #18091327 02/02/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Outfitter beretzs Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA Originally Posted by nyrifleman On this site? Mashburn. I hear it's a cult. Man, you’re like a darned sniper today! Cults maybe not a strong enough word.. secret society is closer. Semper Fi

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18091339 02/02/23 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,653 Queensbury N nyrifleman Campfire Outfitter nyrifleman Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,653 Queensbury First rule of Mashburn cult..... “Factio democratica delenda est"

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? nyrifleman #18091921 02/02/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Outfitter beretzs Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA Originally Posted by nyrifleman First rule of Mashburn cult..... Someone has to keep it on track. Last edited by beretzs; 02/02/23. Semper Fi

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18092016 02/02/23 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,362 Utah B boatanchor Campfire Tracker boatanchor Campfire Tracker B Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,362 Utah Such a breath of fresh air to have a thread where ( Lil'Dick, Pig Stink or the Bull Schit Artist have not posted yet) !!!!!!! Last edited by boatanchor; 02/02/23.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? boatanchor #18092606 02/02/23 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,423 TN K Kaleb Campfire Tracker Kaleb Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,423 TN Originally Posted by boatanchor Such a breath of fresh air to have a thread where ( Lil'Dick, Pig Stink or the Bull Schit Artist have not posted yet) !!!!!!! Lol….that’s a lie. If you meant what you said you would not have mentioned him. I can’t imagine a stranger on the internet bothering me so much. You might consider getting a emotional support animal or something

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? Woodhits #18093108 02/02/23 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 USA T TonyRumore OP Campfire Member OP TonyRumore Campfire Member T Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 USA Originally Posted by Woodhits Would be interesting to see numbers from the reloading die manufacturers I don't know about dies, but Robert Hayden (Starline Brass) told me a couple of years ago that they had made over 10 million pieces of 458 SOCOM brass. There's also load data listed for it in the Nosler, Lyman, Hodgdon, Lee, and Western Powders reloading manuals. Tony Last edited by TonyRumore; 02/02/23. Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? Kaleb #18093131 02/02/23 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,362 Utah B boatanchor Campfire Tracker boatanchor Campfire Tracker B Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,362 Utah Originally Posted by Kaleb Originally Posted by boatanchor Such a breath of fresh air to have a thread where ( Lil'Dick, Pig Stink or the Bull Schit Artist have not posted yet) !!!!!!! Lol….that’s a lie. If you meant what you said you would not have mentioned him. I can’t imagine a stranger on the internet bothering me so much. You might consider getting a emotional support animal or something WOW apparently you decided not to douche today and stay stinky

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18093175 02/03/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 102,431 Texas hanco Campfire Sage hanco Campfire Sage Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 102,431 Texas 6.5-06??

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? hanco #18093767 02/03/23 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,700 Big Sky Country,USA mistem Campfire Tracker mistem Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,700 Big Sky Country,USA Originally Posted by hanco 6.5-06?? + 1 ……. 30-338 too Ask for forgiveness......instead of permission

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18094792 02/03/23 Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,648 SC, USA O Offshoreman Campfire Regular Offshoreman Campfire Regular O Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,648 SC, USA PO Ackley said the 250 Sav AI was the best of his wildcats. AKA The P-Man If you cherish your memories with kids, be a good role model . . . . so the RIGHT memories of you mean something to them.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? hanco #18095389 02/03/23 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,989 Central, Texas L LBP Campfire Tracker LBP Campfire Tracker L Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,989 Central, Texas Originally Posted by hanco 6.5-06?? Isn’t that the 6.5 Brenneke? Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming. Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18095505 02/03/23 Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,103 R RinB Campfire Tracker RinB Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,103 Let’s admit it…there aren’t any non-SAAMI wildcats that are popular or worthwhile. Zip. Nada. Last edited by RinB; 02/03/23. “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”. Antoine de Saint-Exupery. Originally posted by Brad.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18095632 02/03/23 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 54,527 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 54,527 Paradise,Alaska 223AI is my Favoritest chambering of All Time. Hint. Were the clock starting over Today,it'd be 22 PPC AFI. Hint. Just sayin'................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? Big Stick #18095945 02/03/23 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,666 Great Lakes B brinky72 Campfire Tracker brinky72 Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,666 Great Lakes Do tell. That looks like an interesting set up. What weight bullet are you running at what speeds and what twist. My only sub 7mm is a stock Colt M4 for the house and I’m looking for a vermin rifle project. Keep your powder dry and stay frosty my friends.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? hanco #18095967 02/03/23 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 894 Upstate SC H HandgunHTR Campfire Regular HandgunHTR Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 894 Upstate SC Originally Posted by hanco 6.5-06?? Was SAAMIed in 1997. 338-06 was 1998.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18096347 02/03/23 Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 594 Dubuque, IA G Gaschekt Campfire Regular Gaschekt Campfire Regular G Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 594 Dubuque, IA 6mm GT

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18098163 02/04/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Outfitter beretzs Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA Anybody mentioned a 223 Ackley? Seems like a bunch of them around. Just saw BS beat me to the Ackley. Last edited by beretzs; 02/04/23. Semper Fi

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? beretzs #18098269 02/04/23 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 42,488 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 42,488 Battle Born Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by nyrifleman On this site? Mashburn. I hear it's a cult. Man, you’re like a darned sniper today! Cults maybe not a strong enough word.. secret society is closer. Bobin tried to get me to join, but I didn't want to go through the ceremony... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? Big Stick #18098401 02/04/23 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,341 Back in Baton Rouge L LSU fan Campfire Tracker LSU fan Campfire Tracker L Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,341 Back in Baton Rouge Originally Posted by Big Stick Were the clock starting over Today,it'd be 22 PPC AFI. Hint. .. Refresh my memory. Is this basically a 22 Grendel? Or 22 - 6 ARC?

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18099025 02/04/23 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,433 Craigmont, Idaho M mart Campfire Tracker mart Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,433 Craigmont, Idaho Probably not the most popular but certainly the best wildcat has to be the 400 Whelen. Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? mart #18099478 02/04/23 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,666 Great Lakes B brinky72 Campfire Tracker brinky72 Campfire Tracker B Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,666 Great Lakes Originally Posted by mart Probably not the most popular but certainly the best wildcat has to be the 400 Whelen. Likely one of the most screwed up by those who don’t know how to properly form the case which is why it’s not very popular. Keep your powder dry and stay frosty my friends.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18100272 02/04/23 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,871 J Jason280 Campfire Tracker Jason280 Campfire Tracker J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,871 .22 K-Hornet 7mm TCU .30-30 AI

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18100564 02/05/23 Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1,283 Central NYS S shawlerbrook Campfire Regular shawlerbrook Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1,283 Central NYS 30 30ai or 35-30/30

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18103433 02/05/23 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,871 J Jason280 Campfire Tracker Jason280 Campfire Tracker J Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,871 Quote 35-30/30 It's actually been legitimized as the .360 Buckhammer.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18103860 02/05/23 Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 44 F foureyes4 Campfire Greenhorn foureyes4 Campfire Greenhorn F Joined: Mar 2020 Posts: 44 .35 Brown Whelen a real hammer of Thor.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18109160 02/07/23 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,791 Columbia, S.C. SCGunNut Campfire Tracker SCGunNut Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,791 Columbia, S.C. The Herretts gotta be up there too.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? bsa1917hunter #18110192 02/07/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Outfitter beretzs Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by nyrifleman On this site? Mashburn. I hear it's a cult. Man, you’re like a darned sniper today! Cults maybe not a strong enough word.. secret society is closer. Bobin tried to get me to join, but I didn't want to go through the ceremony... It only hurts buying dies.. After that it's just like a 7 Rem Mag +P Semper Fi

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18110274 02/07/23 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,208 Columbia, SC G GreggH Campfire Regular GreggH Campfire Regular G Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,208 Columbia, SC 7-08 AI? GreggH

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18110286 02/07/23 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 54,527 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 54,527 Paradise,Alaska It were a 223AI morning. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18110376 02/07/23 Joined: May 2014 Posts: 8,813 NE South Dakota Bugger Campfire Outfitter Bugger Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2014 Posts: 8,813 NE South Dakota Of the ones I have, I like the 22-250 AI as much as any. I know I shoot it most. I used to shoot the 7mm TCU a lot for pistol silhouette. The 7mm International was popular back then. I see the 257 AI for sale sometimes and the price is a bit below the 257. I'd think the 6.5-06 Ai would be up there and it hasn't been mentioned. Life member NRA I prefer classic. Semper Fi - SGT I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? Bugger #18110734 02/07/23 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,362 Utah B boatanchor Campfire Tracker boatanchor Campfire Tracker B Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,362 Utah Originally Posted by Bugger Of the ones I have, I like the 22-250 AI as much as any. I know I shoot it most. I have to agree with you on that one, been shooting the 22-250AI for many years and had my own reamer made more than 20 years ago. the only problem is that Lapua was late to the party and did not make 22-250 brass until after I had a reamer. Lapua brass is significantly larger at the base than any other brand of brass and wont chamber in my rifles so I'm stuck with Norma and Federal brass

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? TonyRumore #18110929 02/07/23 Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 807 R Riflehunter Campfire Regular Riflehunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 807 Everyone thinks the .22 Creedmore is so wonderful, yet the 28 degree version of the .22-250 AI is virtually the same as the 30 degree shouldered .22 Creedmore. Magazine feeding of the 28 degree 22-250 AI is also better than the 40 degree version.

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? Riflehunter #18111018 02/07/23 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Outfitter beretzs Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 12,180 Northeast USA Originally Posted by Riflehunter Everyone thinks the .22 Creedmore is so wonderful, yet the 28 degree version of the .22-250 AI is virtually the same as the 30 degree shouldered .22 Creedmore. Magazine feeding of the 28 degree 22-250 AI is also better than the 40 degree version. Isn’t that why folks like the Creed. Brass is already fire formed? I can’t see a seconds worth of difference between the two cartridges in real shooting but I can see a bunch of extra time forming cases. Semper Fi

Re: What's the most popular non-Saami'd wildcat cartridge? beretzs #18111035 02/07/23 Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 807 R Riflehunter Campfire Regular Riflehunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 807 Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by Riflehunter Everyone thinks the .22 Creedmore is so wonderful, yet the 28 degree version of the .22-250 AI is virtually the same as the 30 degree shouldered .22 Creedmore. Magazine feeding of the 28 degree 22-250 AI is also better than the 40 degree version. Isn’t that why folks like the Creed. Brass is already fire formed? I can’t see a seconds worth of difference between the two cartridges in real shooting but I can see a bunch of extra time forming cases. Yes, exactly. And I suppose I'm saying that maybe the 28 degree version of the .22-250 AI should have been more popular than what it was, but nearly everyone opted for the 40 degree version. Last edited by Riflehunter; 02/07/23.