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Im wanting to build either a fast twist 220 or 22/250 or a 2506. starting point is the #1vt chamberd in 220. i was hopeing for all your pics so i can decide how i want to built, i have decided if its a 22 itl have a 1/8 barrel 2506 will be 1/9 barrel lenght will be 26" and will be fairly close to the vt barrel but probly fluted. will retain factory wood. heres base for the build. rifle throat is getting long but still shooting well ive had this for along time
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Evan, I have two #1's that have been rebarreled with fairly heavy straight taper barrels for PD shooting. I see that your .220 has a sling so you might not be wanting a rifle this heavy(12 lbs), but I'll post the pics so you can see what they look like. This is my .204 Wasp, the cal. isn't the same but I wanted to show the barrel profile. It's a Krieger #18 contour. It's 1.200 dia. for 5" then straight taper to .875 and finished at 26" long. I went with the Krieger for a couple of reasons. The 1.200 dia. was perfect for the scope bases that I like to use without needing any additional barrel turning. I use two #85 Weaver bases about 3.5" apart. I had never had a cut rifled barrel and Kreiger has a reputation for fine accuracy. This #1 is another wildcat of my design on a 30-30 case, .219DW PDK. The barrel is a Shilen #7 contour. The barrel was 1.25 with straight taper to .890. Turning the barrel to 1.200 gave 5-6" of straight dia. for the scope bases.It finished at 27" long. I had this one glass beaded for a matte finish. Mark Penrod of Penrod Precision in North Manchester, In. did the rebarrel on both rifles. I opened up the forends for barrel clearance with 60 grit sandpaper wrapped around various sizes of 1/2 drive sockets. I've not had any experience with fast twist barrels shooting high BC bullets. I've read a lot about shooting them, but have stayed with 14" twist .224 barrels shooting 50 or 55 gr bullets for PD's. I'm really impressed with the performance of 39-40 gr .204's at 4100 fps out of the 11" twist Kreiger. Good luck with your project. Dave in IN
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219dw
those are very good looking rigs. im thinking about going onestep bigger at the muzzle and maybe doing a onepeice pictanny rale mounted to the barrel. or maybe just the ruger VT scope blocks. guess that all depends on the barrel OD for the first 4" or so past the action.
what finish is on those stainless barrels. i like how they look.
thank you for the reply and the pics
Evan
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Evan, The .219 was polished and then glass beaded for a matte finish. For the .204, I told Mark that I wanted it polished but that I didn't want it to look like chrome. It turned out exactly like I wanted. The finish on this #3 is polished with a light glass bead where some of the shine is still there. It's more like a satin finish. The finish on the action is French Grey by EABCO. About 5 years ago I really screwed up and stored this rifle in a gun case that had some moisture in it. The action rusted and was pitted. I didn't think a reblue would look good with the pitting, but it doesn't look too bad with this matte finish. The barrel is a #7 Shilen in .219 Wasp that I've shot 6000+ times since 1994. Dave in IN
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whered you get that handle/lever. man you have all kinds of cool stuff. that finish looks great to.
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That one is a Ruger #3, thus the different style lever.
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Evan, I have another #3 that built a little differently than the other Rugers. It was rebarreled by EABCO in Minn. The barrel is 1.200 dia for about 1/4" then steps down to 1.000 dia. for about 4 1/2 inches then tapers to .820. This #3 weighs about 10 lb. or about 2 lb. less than the other three. The Vais brake allows me to see hits on PD's. The cal is .224 BRM which is one of their designs. Case capacity is between .22-250 and .220 Swift. I don't think they rebarrel Rugers anymore, which is alright with me because I wouldn't send them another one. This barrel is highly polished. The scope base is a steel Weaver style 4 3/8" long that fits on the 1.000 dia part of the barrel. The rings on all four rifles are Burris ZEE rings with the plastic inserts. They installed the base, but I think I've seen them in Brownell's catalogue. If you want to see a few more pics and a little more info go to saubier.com, forums,project guns, thread is " First .20 cal project". Sorry I haven't learned how to put in a direct link, I tried a couple of ways that didn't work. Dave
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I just posted pics of my latest custom #1 in 300 Savage. I've also done them in 7MM/08 and 300 H&H. You can do a search and see them
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I have 3 custom no 1’s and another being made. .338WSM, .280Rem, .338-06, and .35Whelen (under construction). Also ha .257Rib that’s factory. Love’em all
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A buddy of mine told me about a custom No. 3 22 K-Hornet he was interested in on the used rack at the LGS. I went down and looked at it and bought it out from under him. Feeling guilty, I sold him my No. 1S 218 Bee to make amends A bit of old-school flavor: It shoots well with a case full of Lil Gun and 40 gr V-max's - 100 yd 5 and 10 shot groups:
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You can get 14.5gr of LG in there?
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A buddy of mine told me about a custom No. 3 22 K-Hornet he was interested in on the used rack at the LGS. I went down and looked at it and bought it out from under him. Feeling guilty, I sold him my No. 1S 218 Bee to make amends A bit of old-school flavor: It shoots well with a case full of Lil Gun and 40 gr V-max's - 100 yd 5 and 10 shot groups: I had saved a picture of that rifle a while back. As it is similar to what I had in mind for my no 3 in 30/40 Krag. Has the barrel been replaced or is it the original minus the front sight? Jeff
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You can get 14.5gr of LG in there? In WW or Rem brass - yes (powder level is about 1/16" below case mouth). I've since switched to PRVI brass which is heavier/thicker and 14.0 gr fills that case to about same level.
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A buddy of mine told me about a custom No. 3 22 K-Hornet he was interested in on the used rack at the LGS. I went down and looked at it and bought it out from under him. Feeling guilty, I sold him my No. 1S 218 Bee to make amends A bit of old-school flavor: It shoots well with a case full of Lil Gun and 40 gr V-max's - 100 yd 5 and 10 shot groups: I had saved a picture of that rifle a while back. As it is similar to what I had in mind for my no 3 in 30/40 Krag. Has the barrel been replaced or is it the original minus the front sight? Jeff Barrel is not original - 26" and a little lighter contour than the 26" 1S contour...
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What's the bromide..... I thought the rifle was chambered for XXXXXX, Turns out it is chambered for $5 bills. Ruger #1, 475 Turnbull. One of a run done by Turnbull Restorations. ya! GWB
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This one started life as a 1-A chambered in 270 Winchester. Now it wears a 24” 1:9 Shilen chambered in 257 Roberts, a 1-B quarter rib, and a barrel band swivel. Now I have the AH that I always wanted.
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I've owned this one since the early '80's- it was built for auction by Guns Magazine, to commemorate their 25th anniversary, with proceeds to benefit the Olympic Shooters fund. I won the auction, and it sat in my gun safe for a couple of decades before I decided to try and see if it was a shooter. It is chambered for 7mm RCBS, but it turns out it shoots .280 ammo with good accuracy. Barrel is Shilen, metalwork was done by Ray Viramontez, stock by Alvin Lind.
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This is the rifle that started the "tempest in a tea cup" 1A in 303 craze LOL! I love this rifle , but it is nothing like the production Rugers in .303. I have taken critters from coyotes to moose with it, from 20 yards to over 350 yards. it is to the point where I do not like to hunt with anything else! Cat
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scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!
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This 1A had a gorgeous set of stocks on it in fiddleback maple, I sold it after shooting a few deer with it because I do not like the cartridge the barrel was chambered in. I maybe should have kept it and put a different barrel on it . Cat
scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!
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